I’m not really sure where to ask this question. Maybe there’s a lemmy dev community where these kind of discussions already happen.

I feel like the default front page in Lemmy is still severely lacking when compared to Reddit’s r/all algorithm. I find hot and top hourly to be nearly identical. The top 6 hour is closer, but still not as good as what the Reddit default front page is.

  • higgs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    1 year ago

    Yeah same. People complain about algorithms but 80% of the posts on my homescreen are posts from the meme pages. There should be a choice for algorithm based feed.

    • danc4498@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      36·
      1 year ago

      I don’t think people realize what an “algorithm” actually is. Top hourly is an algorithm, for instance.

      The advantage of being open source is that all the algorithm logic is accessible by anybody. So they can’t hide nefarious logic in there to push agendas for instance.

      • sethboy66@kbin.social
        15·
        1 year ago

        I feel that the mention of reddit’s ‘r/all’ algorithm being better than Lemmy’s algorithm certainly shows a clear misunderstanding of these algorithms; r/all can be sorted in the exact same ways as Lemmy, the only difference is that reddit has more active users and thereby more content + people filtering it by voting. I also think people in this thread misunderstand ‘algorithm’ to mean something solely meant to find posts that they may personally like or at least the least are somehow quasi-objectively ‘good’. An algorithm for that can be made, but that is not what the algorithms currently in-use have ever been intended to do.

        If someone wants a feed of posts that particularly targets their interests then they’ll have to tailor one themselves, just like on reddit.

        • sulungskwa@lemmy.world
          5·
          1 year ago

          I don’t know how well lemmy sorts by “level of interaction relative to number of subscribers”. For instance on r/all, you’d see a post with 15 upvotes on r/really-specific-thing-from-the-town-i-live-in-with-500-subs right next to a r/askreddit thread with 30k upvotes. In order to see smaller communities, it seems like I have to be on new or hot, but it never seems to make its way up to active.

        • Odusei@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 year ago

          What I really miss from reddit is multireddits, something that Lemmy could seriously benefit from when there are multiple competing communities on different instances focusing on the same topics. I really hope some version of that is on the roadmap.

        • TWeaK@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 year ago

          This is true, but that doesn’t mean that the implementation your instance is using is exactly the same as what’s in the main lemmy code stack.

        • danc4498@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          So, when I go to r/all, it defaults to “hot”. That sorting algorithm is specifically what I’m referring to. And no, that doesn’t exist in Lemmy. Top 6 hours is the closest that I can get to that, but I believe there is tons of logic hidden in the Reddit algorithm that makes the quality of sorting better.

          I am not looking for a personalized sorting option. I browsed r/all specifically to avoid that. The front page of r/all always felt special to me. Like content that makes the front page is a big deal on Reddit.

          I get that the quality of content isn’t there yet and depends on a larger user base. I just want to know that the front page sorting is being worked on, and maybe what the conversation looks like.

        • macarthur_park@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          The one advantage that Reddit’s r/all has over the lemmy “all” is that it blocked posts from porn subreddits (and a few other controversial ones).

          I’d like to browse all more often since there are so many communities to discover, especially now while new ones are constantly being created. But I won’t do that in public due to all the porn in the feed. Hiding nsfw posts doesn’t really solve the problem since there are plenty of non-pornographic nsfw posts I’d like to see.

    • Vlhacs@reddthat.comEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      I blocked so many communities because it’s almost just an endless stream of memes

    • Magister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Same, and a few days ago I had memes on the front page from 2h ago and some from 2 years ago?!?

    • HeartyBeast@kbin.social
      31·
      1 year ago

      Why not look at new in subscribed, rather than all? - or are you subscribed to memes communities?

    • Freeman@lemmy.pubEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I am a pretty big fan of new comments as a default sort. Occasionally days old stuff will reappear if comments start up again but mostly it’s new stuff generating discussion.

      Top day or 12 hours for a rough daily digest.

      And new for well…new.