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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Because it’s biased itself. They whitewash far right conservative sources while listing anything that tries to remain neutral and fact based as having a left bias. Left center to be exact. Then they put far right stuff in “right center” to make you think it’s equivalent.

    Their factual rating is largely subjective as well. With similar amounts of failed fact checks getting different ratings.

    So basically the guys who want to be the guardians of fact and bias are themselves acting in a biased manner instead of an objective one.

    • Dramatic Shitposter@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 months ago

      Because it’s biased itself. They whitewash far right conservative sources while listing anything that tries to remain neutral and fact based as having a left bias. Left center to be exact. Then they put far right stuff in “right center” to make you think it’s equivalent.

      Source?

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        You can check the categories on the MBFC website yourself but a couple choice picks in the “right center” category are the Ayn Rand Institute, advocates for self governance, and American Action Network.

        The first two are libertarian and pro Anarcho Capitalism. The second one attempts to masquerade as a non political education tool about politics. And third is a partisan group that runs campaign ads for the GOP.

        Meanwhile in left center we have NYT, WAPO, and BBC.

        • Dramatic Shitposter@discuss.tchncs.de
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          You can check the categories on the MBFC website yourself but a couple choice picks in the “right center” category are the Ayn Rand Institute, advocates for self governance, and American Action Network.

          The first two are libertarian and pro Anarcho Capitalism. The second one attempts to masquerade as a non political education tool about politics. And third is a partisan group that runs campaign ads for the GOP.

          Meanwhile in left center we have NYT, WAPO, and BBC.

          Looking through all the sources you mentioned, especially the center-right sources, the ratings tend to be accurate. Did you expect the center right sources to be rated as far right and the center left sources to be rated as right wing?

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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            I expect the fact based objective sources to be rated as center/not biased. And sources calling for a complete destruction of liberal democracy to be far right, yes. The campaign site should be listed under Right as it’s transparently a partisan organization.

            The comparison with leftists here would be if they listed Anarcho-Communists as “left center”. But then your response tells me everything I need to know. You’ve gone right into exaggerated rhetoric meant to paint me as someone from the far left.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    2 months ago
    1. People disagree on the bias bot reporting
    2. People don’t like their biases being made visible
    3. People don’t realize they have a bias
    4. People find the bot noisy
    • NateNate60@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Someone just told me that it “labels everything short of fascism as ‘left-leaning’” and “tries to shift the Overton window” even further right than it already is in the US.

      And I suppose that is correct if your idea of the spectrum of normal political opinions is restricted to what you see on Lemmy, especially if your instance hasn’t defederated from Hexbear yet.

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        And yet ultimately, MBFC places their center – by their own admission – based on US politics, which is decidedly right of center within the developed world.

        • NateNate60@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          That’s correct. It’s intended for a US audience.

          If it were based on the European Overton window and you were American then there’s a good chance you would complain about its centre being centre-left for you.

          It’s not wrong; you’re just not in the intended audience.

          It’s not really possible to give internationally correct ratings. What an American considers centre-left is different from what a Frenchman considers centre-left, which is different from what a Pole considers centre-left. You can only report one, and the other two will then complain about it being wrong from their perspective.

          • azuth@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            It should then refrain from from posting on non US-media sources and/or stories and/or communities.

            Of course it won’t. It’s purpose is to promote it’s owners US-centric political window.

            It’s spamming political propaganda ,dressing it up as ‘facts’, and it’s getting it’s just deserts.

  • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m mostly in favor of leaving the comment-clogging bots back on reddit where they can all talk to each other without me.

    • androogee (they/she)@midwest.social
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      2 months ago

      Not sure if this is the same on every instance, but on my profile there’s an option for “show bot accounts”

      Just uncheck that bad boy and self-identified bot accounts don’t even show up.