Hi all,

I’m seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I’m wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I’m pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn’t the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I’m happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

  • Tak@lemmy.mlEnglish
    12·
    1 year ago

    Nobody has a problem with people being specialized or having roles. If anything anti-capitalist rhetoric is rooted in making sure all specialized roles get paid well instead of just the ones at the top.

    We all need garbage collectors and sewage treatment workers but for some reason we want to pretend those working these jobs deserve to be paid less than executives make in a day.

    • prole@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      The idea that workers, the people who are actually making a product, should have (at the very least) a stake in owning the means of that production, should be self-evident. There is an entire class of people, who have all the power and money, that are essentially unnecessary middle men that add nothing of value to society.

      And somehow, they’ve convinced most of the world that we should be grateful for it.

      • Tak@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I’m sure most of the world think differently if they had the time to think and discuss the underpinnings of our society. Most people are getting home off a 9 hour shift and don’t want to read about philosophy even if they had endless free time.

      • Tak@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        So if you are ever critical of capitalism you’re part of whatever communist experiment you’re talking about?

        Seems like quite the assumption and justification for the world being unjust. Capitalist realism isn’t something you should fly as a defense of capitalism, it just shows you aren’t willing to be critical of it and therefore have to be critical of something that many could argue never existed as Marx even said communism can’t really exist unless everyone is living in a stateless and classless society.

        Might I add it’s really wild you think the economic system that has existed for maybe 200 years of the hundreds of thousands of human existence as natural.

          • Tak@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Sorry, was an attempt to come off as light hearted and not a pedantic asshole but I think you’re right and it makes me seem more the latter.