Yesterday, lemmy.blahaj.zone announced their defederation from lemmynsfw.com and argued that lemmynsfw don’t care enough about CSAM.
- announcement: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1204784
- response: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/418317
Although I think lemmynsfw is right about this, that’s not the point. I believe lemmy.blahaj.zone is an instance caught in the positivity echo chamber (to put it more roughly, circle jerk).
You can never interact negatively with their decisions or thoughts. Downvotes disabled. Admin literally removing any opposing view while keeping positive ones.
Check this comment: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/1336587
Admin removed the comment while keeping reply of it and commenting with Exactly this. Dear friend, we don’t know the main comment so how can we agree any of them?
IDK. I think it is very annoying for an instance built on diversity to have such reactions. Is it just me thinking like that? Am I the stupid one here?
Note: Posting this here so admins won’t be able to remove.
Edit: I guess I should add this. IDC should they defederate or not. I just don’t liked their behaviour.
(This is my personal impression, not a moderator statement.)
From here, this really does look like one admin saw something they didn’t like, and then did not listen when they were told that their first impression was simply not correct.
It’s the not listening that worries me. That’s how biases get reinforced and an initial mistake gets magnified into a whole Doctrinal Conflict.
From the dialog that was posted it sure seems that was what happened: a well-intentioned mistake becomes escalated to an accusation, then to what amounts to “the fact that I could make this mistake means that you are Bad People.”
At no point does the admin involved accept that their initial impression was wrong; they argue instead that it doesn’t matter that it was wrong.
The whole thing is unsettlingly similar to some conversations I’ve heard about drag performance, really. “Well, Drag Queen Story Hour sounds sexual to me, so therefore you’re doing a sexual performance in front of children, so you’re a groomer.”
It’s unfortunate, but sadly some double down when they discover they’re wrong. Even moderators.
Especially mods. and even more especially admins.
Fair point, the higher the position, the larger the perceived fall.
The community in question made requests for “child-like” content until the drama started.
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The mod themselves said it was true and you’ve been given links to it multiple times.
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Here’s their discussion of the topic https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/682757
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That doesn’t seem to have been brought up in the discussion prior to the defederation decision; maybe I missed something?
If it wasn’t, then it probably didn’t inform that decision … and it doesn’t affect whether the blahaj admin was listening to what the lemmynsfw admin was saying, or acknowledging that their first impression was a mistake of fact.
I think you are right, I tried to check the times and actions and posted in a comment below what I did find. TLDR, if I didn’t get the times wrong from the modlog and the defederation post, and didn’t misunderstand something, the whole child-like thing happened way past the admins discussing the community.
In the comment I’ve directly pinged the mod too, so in case if they want they can add to it.
From the original post:
That’s almost certainly a reference to the “child-like” rule
Could be? Can’t tell.
There’s also this: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/1363190
Can’t tell but you’re still willing to make assumptions and make up motivations without verifying anything. Is this community just for drumming up drama and targeting other communities?