• freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 month ago

    Such disgustingly deliberate word choice when China hasn’t dropped bombs in, what, 60 years? The bombardment is happening in Gaza, not the fucking tech sector

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      “To bombard someone with letters” is an expression actively used in the English language.

      China hasn’t dropped bombs in, what, 60 years?

      Almost correct. The last war-sized conflict China took part in was the 1979 Chinese-Vietnamese war [1]. That was 45 years ago. Battle-sized events between China and Vietnam have occurred up to 1991 [2], that would be up to 23 years ago. Skirmish-sized events with India are as recent as 2021. [3]. As for what occurs in Gaza, I agree. Bad stuff has been happening there. Going by the tonnage of things blowing up, Gaza is a gang shootout compared to Ukraine, though.

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        29 days ago

        Do you mind noting when/where bombs were dropped by the Chinese during the Chinese-Vietnam war, or any of the engagements you’ve listed? I’m having trouble finding any information about that.

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          I don’t know the details. Wikipedia estimates Chinese losses as 26 000 killed, 37 000 wounded with 420 tanks and 66 guns lost. Vietnamese losses are estimated at 30 000 killed, 32 000 wounded, 185 tanks, 200 guns and 6 missile launchers lost - so it’s safe to assume they didn’t use butter knives.

          Their preferred method of bombing might have been artillery, though - due to the lack of high capacity bomber aircraft, and due to lack of air superiority. Despite this, Wikipedia also mentions:

          “The 372nd Air Division in central Vietnam as well as the 917th, 935th and 937th Air Regiments in southern Vietnam were quickly deployed to the north.[61]”

          The Vietnamese source article is here. A relevant part seems to be this:

          “When the border war began, the Ministry of National Defense also decided to send part of the 372nd Air Division (Hai Van Group) to the North to perform missions. From February 18 to March 3, 1979, squadrons of the 917th Air Regiment (Dong Thap Group), 935 (Dong Nai Group) and 937 (Hau Giang Group) including 10 UH-1 helicopters, 3 U-17 reconnaissance aircraft, 10 A-37 attack aircraft, and 10 F-5 fighter-bombers were deployed at Hoa Lac, Kep, Bach Mai and Noi Bai bases, respectively.”

          I’m unable to find more details or an account from the Chinese side.

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      1 month ago

      For 3x the money! Sign me up but I would need a pretty bad ass contract to jumpship!

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      From what I’ve read about working at Chinese tech companies, you will not get to work remotely. In fact, you will be required to work in an office for 10 hrs a day instead of coming and going as you please.

      Just look at the TSMC factory in AZ as an example. Taiwanese work expectations are not very compatible with how top US talent wants to work.

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          29 days ago

          Agreed, I wasn’t exactly sure how well it would translate countries, but it was the first solid thing that came to mind.

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                29 days ago

                Ay least we agree, the people living in Taiwan do not believe they are a part of China then, correct?

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                  people living in taiwan are probably not a monolithic block.

                  but the cia has been doing some mighty propaganda work over there, so who knows if they think being a colony is worth it.

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        They’re a big believer in 996, so 9am to 9pm, six days a week. Sadly, this is creeping into western tech too, but is commonplace in China.

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    Didn’t see any specifics around hours in the article though.

    Is it twice the pay for twice the working hours? 996 or whatever they call it?

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    Microsoft, Apple and Google all collectively shed one single tear as their concerns for their multi-billion dollar profits. For the Execs that is.

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    Mmm, China perfidiously stealing the hard-earned talent of Western engineers? I know just the solution! They should build an anti-communist self-defence wall:

    We no longer wanted to stand by passively and see how doctors, engineers, and skilled workers were induced by refined methods unworthy of the dignity of man to give up their secure existence in the GDR and work in West Germany or West Berlin. These and other manipulations cost the GDR annual losses amounting to 3.5 thousand million marks.

    Some fine historical irony. Of course, given the way the university system works in places like the US, there’s not even a good argument that this imposes costs on the public, who trains personnel only for them to leave and benefit some other state.

    Maybe this is what Trump’s wall is for.

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      Maybe this is what Trump’s wall is for.

      There is a video of thin Mexican worker slipping between the bars (wall had to be see through for some reason) from one side of the border to the other. Obviously wall is meant to keep fat Americans trapped inside America.

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      trains personnel only for them to leave and benefit some other state.

      The entire country of Canada may feel triggered for the last 30 years at this comment.

      I mean, all the doctors and nerds come back, but it takes a decade. Are you saying we get a border wall too, and Trump is gonna pay for it ?

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        At a guess, it’s following older British norms, whereby a billion is what it is in other European languages (a million million) and a thousand million is a thousand million or, more pretentiously, a milliard. You’d have to ask the authors though.

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    This perfectly highlights just how hare brained the whole plan to keep contain China technologically is. Whatever skills are missing there, they can just hire top talent from the west to teach them.

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    Ohh no thats awful. Where is this happening so I can avoid it?

    Also: this wouldn’t work if things were good in the west

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    This is a peaceful path to global conquest. It is warmongering posture that promotes this workaround, and enslaving people to domestic tech oligarchy is an inherently negative consequence of warmongering. A world at war means AI/tech helping war and disinformation instead of making work/life more productive.