• °˖✧ ipha ✧˖°@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      They’ve defederated from both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. They’re still a good community, but I don’t consider them part of the fediverse at this point.

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      They defederated with the some of the largest instances that have open registration due to the influx of people causing issues in their own communities and the lack of mod tools to address the issue. People are still pissy about it despite beehaw admins stating they will lift the defederation once lemmy mod tools improve…

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        1 year ago

        They kept saying that they need more moderation tools. Does anyone know what they wanted that Lemmy doesn’t already offer?

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          A big one is probably mods being able to mark posts as nsfw, ability to set posting restrictions for users with new accounts, less buggy mod queue. As of right now it’s not really feasible for a small team to moderate a large community on lemmy. There was a multitude of tools on Reddit that existed that made larger communities run smoothly, nearly all of which just don’t exist here yet. Just general growing pains of a new platform I think.

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            1 year ago

            True, but even a “large” beehaw community is small by Reddit’s standards. Couldn’t they just appoint more moderators? Lemmy allows mods to create more mods for a community.

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              I think the biggest issue they had highlighted (that I witnessed myself, unfortunately) mainly was people with clear bad faith intentions entering beehaw’s spaces designated for discussions of and about vulnerable communities and individuals that beehaw wants to make sure to protect as part of their community ethos. Discussions that were calm and respectful and didn’t devolve into chaos previously due to the barrier blocks in their community quickly fell apart due to large swaths of users who were able to enter the community without any barriers that would have been stopped quickly if they had tried to sign up to beehaw. Like, a lot of it was really was the lack of post restrictions within their local communities. An example off the top of my head, beehaw requires you to fill out a form to basically make sure you are wanting to join in line with their community policies. For those that get the false impression that they are asking for a large essay or were asking for censorship and get dissuaded because of that, beehaws admin seem to feel that is a good deterrent to those who wouldn’t engage in good faith within their community anyway. And it seemed to work on its own, but it quickly fell apart as huge amounts of signups began the surge across the two instances they defederated. Individuals who began to cause problems and enter the communities to troll, were almost all from those instances. It was a matter of they literally can only ban and delete, and with how the modding system in lemmy current system is, it was a losing game of whack a mole they currently cannot win.

    • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.world
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      Regardless of what happened, beehaw is not for everyone.

      They aim to be a safe haven for people that are afraid to be harassed for who they are. It’s a noble goal IMO but to achieve that, they have to moderate their instance quite heavily.

      If you’re not their target audience, you’ll find it too restrictive.