Read it let me know what you think.

  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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    If it happens, I’m pretty sure almost as many Americans as Canadians would be fighting FOR the Canadian side.

    There’s a lot of Americans that would happily defect to Canada if their country decided on something so monumentally stupid.

  • Dettweiler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This article is speculation. The author states that this assumption is based on a few discussions they’ve had with random people on Xitter.

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        Ok I wont even bother opening the link and I will just blacklist substack with my pihole. I have never really liked the site but I will take your word for it and just cut the cord.

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    It’s not like Trump’s desires are a secret or anything. He outright talks about Canada joining the US almost daily, and throws in some threats about Greenland too every so often too. It is just how Trump works - he assumes everything is his for the taking until someone more powerful than him says no. The prick can’t even hold tariffs for a few days before powerful CEO’s call him and tell him to knock it off.

    But as pointed out in the link: It would be the last thing the Trump admin does. The US would quickly succumb to civil war as every member of NATO and Canada’s military partners swarm to defend it and the rebelling US states. The US, as it stands today, would effectively be destroyed.

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      Yes but it is the MAGAits who own the guns, in this civil war. Sure once NATO comes down on the US poop gets real but I am still concerned, we will see the next US civil war soon, hears hoping the buffalo party does not decide to welcome them here.

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      So far, waiting for Americans to do the right thing in the face of madness has not payed off for anyone. I think it’s dangerous to expect them to start.

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    However feasible or not any of this is, at this point we have to acknowledge that trump is dead serious about it. It seems unfathomable to a normal person, but he’s not normal and there can be no doubt he wants to do it. He’s a megalomaniac who wants absolute power, wants to be like Putin and invade other countries. And he has many eager enablers to come up with plans.

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      Do you think that the people in the army are going to execute his command if he orders an invasion of Canada?

      You don’t think the vast majority are going to consciously object? We both have so many friends and family on both sides, i doubt they’d ever even leave their bases.

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        One soldier is one to many, but there will be many who do follow the orders. Likely more who would not.

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    Let’s see the fat fucks in that absolutely segregated country try it. They would have to sway their public opinion on a level that I don’t think is possible to make that an even close to feasible option. And if that ever did happen I would gladly give my life, and I’m fairly certain I can take out the 8 Americans it would require to even the score before they’d get me on my home turf.

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      I think I’d just supporting the inevitable insurgency. Lots of Americans would probably join in as well. I’m sure China and Russia would gladly supply support. Putin’s such a good buddy with Trump, he might even not smile as he funds the absolute destruction of the US for generations at pennies on the dollar.

      It’s the stupidest speculative future I can imagine. Who gains in this scenario? Why do something so obviously self destructive? Thing is, who would start a trade war and “joke” about annexation so much? Only someone so ill-informed that they can’t remember how Afghanistan played out (twice) as well as Vietnam, Iraq, etc. Look how much Russia has bled in Ukraine, and to gain so little.

      This isn’t Europa Universalis IV. The strength of empires is not built on force of arms. It’s built on the ability to wage war at an industrial scale, to maintain the supply lines and build the tools of destruction. More than that, it the ability to develop the connections to never need to war, and make war too costly.

      The steel and aluminum tariffs are a great example of that. Alcan (now Rio-Tinto Alcan), originally Aluminum Company of Canada, is the largest producer of aluminum in the world. It was originally a subsidiary of Alcoa, Aluminum Company of America. It was an example of “friendshoring” or “nearshoring”. Canadian aluminum helped build the Spitfires and Mustangs, the Lancasters and Flying Fortresses of WW2. Similar with steal. Since then, it’s only become more interconnected. The cold war wasn’t won in the fields of Vietnam, but in the studios of Hollywood and the factories of the Free World. Now Trump is throwing that away. For what? That’s the scary thing, I remember learning about Mercantilism in Grade 10. The President of the US is operating at a Grade 10 level of understanding of the fate of nations. He’s just ignorant enough he could do something really stupid.

      “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity" —Sun Tzu, probably the one quote Trump ever saw.

      “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” ― Sun Tzu, the chapter Trump never got to.

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      Washingtonian here. I am reading this and trying to fathom how this disjointed country could manage something like this.

      We’re already cracked, but the glass is roughly holding together. Something like this would shatter the cup, the shelves, and the entire house.

      I hate this, I can’t stand the wedge he’s driven between us and the world, and I can’t see us walking this back.

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    Look, they’re dumb and this isn’t impossible, but this would mean a complete crash of the US economy overnight. It’s the least likely thing, and this one source is probably wrong or lying.

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    While I agree this is absolutely what Trump would like to do, it seems pretty unlikely it would get to this point, and the tone of the article makes just makes the whole thing sound like fanatical propaganda.

    I’m sure someone a lot smarter than Donald Trump thinks what is outlined here could work, but in reality:

    A- this would quickly bankrupt the entire United States

    B- it would never actually work since Canada is HUGE and has a strong sizable army

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    C- no one in the United States actually wants to take over Canada. It’s a stupid idea that only the most unhinged and uneducated psychopaths would ever actually support

    Lastly, I would probably be more willing to take this article seriously if it provided any real evidence of this supposed “imminent threat” and were posted somewhere a little more trustworthy than Substack