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    I hate Gen Z

    Dude. I have a group that only talks on Facebook Messenger. It’s 100% Gen X and Millennials. Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.

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      Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.

      I’m assuming that they are also Gen Z, with the whole college roommates thing.

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        I went to college at 29. And it really doesn’t matter how old you are, complaining about a younger generation makes you sound old.

        Take it from a Gen Xer who’s heard The Greatest, the Boomers, and my own generation do it 😁

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          complaining about a younger generation makes you sound old.

          Complaining about any generation, as if it’s a monolith, makes you sound small minded and ignorant. This is as true for older people as it is for the young. Many Gen Zers constantly blame all the world’s problems on Baby Boomers and seems to think all their troubles will magically disappear once the oldest living generation is dead and buried. They’re gonna be real fucking surprised the day they wake up and realize the only thing they ever accomplished socially with all that ageism was to normalize blind hatred of anyone over 40, which will be them before too long.

          And, yes, I know that I’m unironically complaining about a generation in this post. Or at least a segment of them.

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          I went to college at 29.

          Did you also have just-out-of-highschool roommates though?

          Also, fair on the rest of your point. Don’t have to be old to act old.

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        Since when? Boomers will click anything you send them, Gen X think they are too clever to be phished on their XP desktop, and Millennials will give you their entire credit history for $50 off a streaming service. The majority of every generation doesn’t give a shit about digital privacy.

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    I got the same response from my 65 yo in-laws, it ain’t Gen Z

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      My boomer parents use it daily without any trouble. If they can do it anyone can

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        I didn’t mean to imply it was an ability issue, they are just unwilling to change lol, they don’t care about privacy. Classic “Well I don’t have anything to hide” fallacy.

        I just get so annoyed whenever someone broadly says “god I hate the youth for being so dumb”, idiots come in all ages y’all

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    My hot take is that Gen Z is less tech literate than Millennials and it’s almost entirely due to iOS.

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    Bad sign for a roommate. I think their intention was " I have something that’s good enough, and I would be inconvenienced to do another thing, therefore I would prefer to use the old platform most of us are already on " but instead he said " signal sucks "

    This person might be painful to live with

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      Agreed. Hopefully that person will be an ex-roommate soon. Signal, Telegram, and even WhatsApp are all good platforms for group chat communication. Duck Instagram and that roommate.

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        Nothing from Meta, Google, Microsoft is good. It might be encrypted, but the apps suck everyrhing they can from your device and connect it to your real identity you have on FB, IG, Gmail emails…

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          How sure can one be with proprietary apps that the users are in fact the only ones who can decrypt their messages?

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            The thing is that today you dont even need access to the coversation when you have metadata. Imagine, a woman calls a number of center for planned parenthood, is on the phone for 20 mins. Then she calls a number of her gyno doc for couple mins. Then her phone is located at that gyno doc a week later for 2 hours or whatever it takes. Do you need to decrypt the conversation? You already know what was discussed.

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              I mean that’s one very specific scenario. Also you wouldn’t be able to call any of those places on WhatsApp or IG Messenger.

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                Who you associate with, what people/services you call and what places you frequent is way, way more interesting than knowing the actual contents of your messages. I mean they’d probably obviously prefer both, but if you had to pick one, metadata is more valuable.

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                  What data is available is not so important to me as what data could be used against me in a court of law.

                  Bit of a moot point regardless as there are plenty of private messengers.

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          WhatsApp, I believe, was mentioned as more of a desperate option. You can’t trust it, yes, but at least its not Instagram. At least it claims it has encryption, which likely matters very little because its Meta, but it’s still better than a platform with none of that.

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      I mean if you don’t care about privacy at all Signal does kinda suck in comparison to other popular chat apps.

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        Why? I use it for chats and group chats with many people in all age groups and it never sucks.

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          Because it lacks many of the tools, features, and finish of more popular ones like WhatsApp, Telegram, and even IG.

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    1. Create an IG account with a burner email and join the chat
    2. Sell all other member’s data to advertisement, scam telephone services, mailing lists, etc… subscribe all of them to newsletters from amazon and pornsites (or just wait for all of that to happen naturally)
    3. Wait for someone to bring this up
    4. “I told you, we should move to Signal”
    5. Bring everyone over
    6. Win
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    Dude, I agree that everything is fucked up there but don’t blame Gen Z for that. The only reason zoomers are like that, IN THE US, is that they grew up with a large lobby of social media above them and their fathers. “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing"

    Generation war is a very stupid thing that was created precisely to keep us from those responsible for the current state of affairs: the big companies. It is true that most zoomers are stupid, but this is not their fault and it does not have to be that way forever.

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    Just remember: it’s ok to be the weird guy that doesn’t use instagram and isn’t in the group chat.

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      Just don’t be surprised when you get left out of most all group activities.

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          Like any parties, meetups, day to day activities, group activity planning, reminders about bills, etc

          Don’t act like you’re not missing anything from being the only person excluded from a group chat due to ridiculous standards.

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            If the friends in the group chat don’t hit you up individually to let you know about those things, then why would you want to spend time with them in the first place?

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              Because most of the time they’re not leaving you out because they’re doing it intentionally, but because everyone else already has the info, you’re just making it much harder to invite yourself.

              I was this person. I got left out of a lot of stuff because I wouldn’t join group chats. It’s not a hill worth dying on.

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                I would say not inviting that person is doing it intentionally, as everyone knows that person isn’t in the group chat. Also, it does not make you much harder to invite, it’s literally just letting your friend know outside of the group chat.

                If your friends leave you out of things for this reason, they don’t want to hang out with you very much.

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                  I’m 21 and a decent amount of my friends assume I’m already in the group chats where plans are made, and when they remember I’m not, push me to get an iPhone instead of switching to a platform where I can be included. It’s shitty, but everyone else gets the info so it’s okay.

                  Even my 36-year-old cousin said she wouldn’t date anyone who didn’t have an iPhone.

                  At this point, I’m happy Instagram has come up as a platform everyone usually has an account on (even if it fucking sucks) just so that I am accessible for friends to easily add me to groups.

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              If your bills don’t remind you to pay then because you’re not on Instagram, why would you… be… paying them in the first place?

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            Friends will tell you about all those things anyway. If someone didn’t tell you about a party because you’re not on instagram they didn’t want to hang out with you anyway.

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            Lawl I’ve never NOT been invited to a party because I don’t have accounts on social media. What kinda of friends exclude you from “day to day activities” (I can’t NOT read that in the voice of Hank Hill) if you’re not on fucking Instagram?

            Reminders about BILLS?! The fuck are you on?!

            What an insane comment.

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              My roommates and I had a groupchat that was used explicitly for all of those things.

              Planning on the group chat was about the only talking about activities we’d do. If something was missed in the group chat, that was on the person who missed it.

              We paid shared bills. That’s where we did all of the breakup of responsibilities and money requirements.

              Being left out of group chats will absolutely have you left out of day to day activities since they now have to go out of their way to invite only you, since everyone else already has the info.

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                If now that youve left the groupchat your roommates just forget to invite you, even if that what they’re used to, that says A LOT about your friends. I disagree that sending you a message is “out of their way”, it takes an infintismally amount of effort to message someone a time and place. Also, messaging you just is not out of their way, its right in their path if anything. (Assuming they have any desire to see you)

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            Friends can absolutely drop a SMS or phone call if Instagram/Snapchat mutuals is not possible. The pre condition is that you must be worth being a friend, and they must not be dumb enough. Usually all the “internet socials” people I see are shallow and stingy with fake smiles and good short talk upon first interaction.

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      It is not it is the direct messaging system built within Instagram itself. It is extremely popular among Gen Z because they get to spam each other with thousands of Instagram reels and shitty memes

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          Nice to see a fellow zoomer that does not have any social media. I was the biggest social media addict for years and refuse to ever go back. Fuck those algorithm driven psychologically manipulative social media services that also spy on everything you do.

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            I was the biggest social media addict

            I was, a long time ago. Back when you actually used it to follow your friends and see what they were up to. Meta fixed that right up for me when they enshittified it with rampant ads, “Reels” and “suggestions”, not to mention cloning literally every other social media feature, to the point that I can’t even find my actual friends anymore.

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        I have several people that I have blocked because they continuously send me Reels, despite me never replying to a single message and asking them to stop sending them.

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        I’m fairly certain they combined Instagram DMs and FB Messenger into one thing a couple of years ago. Instagram DM is now just FB Messenger but in the Instagram app, and its chats can be viewed and interacted with fully from Messenger.

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    And that’s why I have no friends, because when I propose “walking to my house to tell me” as an alternate method of communication, they throw their hands to the air and say “that’s it, you’re too much of a hassle”

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    lol cope and be normal I guess? I understand insta isn’t great with privacy but it’s a group chat for your room mates. Make a burner account instead of forcing all of them to download some app they’ve never heard of for one group chat with people they are forced to be acquaintances with.

    They’re likely all thinking you’re the odd man out because you’re making a fuss over a group chat.