I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.

That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.

I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.

Edit: Plenty of personal attacks, but no legitimate answers! Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?

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    If you are willing to be respectful and discuss ideas in good faith then there are lots of communities to choose from. Here are two off the top of my head:
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    If you want to broaden your perspectives and have discussions with actual trans people you could try [email protected]

    However, it is clear that you are searching for a guaranteed safe space to say something that you aren’t comfortable voicing out loud, even on an anonymous forum. We have all seen this show before, hence the comments you are getting. If you want a radial free speech space to say anything without consequences then Lemmy isn’t your platform.

    There. Now you can stop complaining that nobody will answer your question. Go do something more productive with your day.

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    Probably. For Lemmy instances, read the community rules in the sidebar and instance rules on the instance (in the sidebar when viewing the top-level page).

    You could also start your own community on some instance that doesn’t take issue with it, or even start your own instance if you’re willing to set up and run one.

    EDIT: Now you kind of made me curious, and I thought that I’d skim some instances running 0.19.11 (an up-to-date version, so are presumably reasonably maintained). Part of the problem is that there are probably a number of things that instances might (and often do) prohibit, and what an admin might consider objectionable probably ranges from party to party. Like, say you said that you wanted to have a good-faith discussion on the impact of transexuality, weren’t going to criticize any individuals involved, and were going to be polite. That might pass muster with some places that have comparatively-restrictive rules…but hard to know in advance.

    • Some straight-up have an explicit prohibition on transphobia.

    • Some prohibit harassment.

    • Some prohibit being “unkind” or similar.

    • Some ask a user to be “respectful”. What that entails probably differs from person to person in interpretation.

    Might ask an admin in advance.

    Going through a couple of general-use instances, some that I would guess, from the rules text, probably are going to be on the more-permissive side:

    • lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org says that they specifically take issue with censorship on many instances. They say that they do have some rules, but nothing on their rules page seems to prohibit criticism of transexuality.

    • discuss.online has a “be nice”-type set of guidelines.

    • real.lemmy.fan has no explicit prohibition other than on harassment and asks users to be kind.

    That being said, if you think that you’re gonna say something that might raise hackles, maybe ask the admin(s) there to clarify whether it’s something that they’d take issue with.

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      Thanks a ton for this informative response. I’m going to check out these instances and see if they fit the bill.

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    Social media is a circle jerk machine: It will reinforce any sentiment to it’s absolute limit.

    A sub like the one you suggested will inevitably turn into a anti-trans hate machine. No such space will exist for long on Lemmy, nor should it.

    I’m sorry to see that everyone seems to assume your question is in bad faith. But considering what you’re asking for - that’s kind of understandable, isn’t it?

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    You keep demanding an answer to your question, so I will give you one.

    I am not aware of any instances that allow or encourage discussions based on a position of bigotry and intolerance.

    To be clear, you present your question in bad faith, and demand good-faith responses only. You claim that calling bigotry is censorship, and that intolerance is a valid stance in a discussion. You also repeatedly refuse to acknowledge that we are in fact having the discussion right here about your opinions on transgenderism.

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    I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.

    Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?

    Looks like the answer you got was “not here” and you can’t accept that.

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    The fact that this post and your answers are still up are, in itself, the proof that criticism of (sigh) « transgenderism » is accept here.

    However you look like you dont understand how a conversation is working if you’re spewing hate and do the cry baby when we point out that you’re spewing hate you don’t want a conversation, you want people that will say you’re right which you are not

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    In here is a good place, as you can see you aren’t being censored.

    That being said, let me show you how you read by changing a single word:

    I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the black agenda.

    That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.

    I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.

    And there’s no “belief” in the matter, transgender is an understood condition, like ADHD or skin color. You trying to claim transgenders are not people, or that gender is not a social construct is just ridiculous, that’s why you’ll get downvoted or banned, same reason you would get arrested by going somewhere and claiming blacks are not humans, you’re factually incorrect, spreading misinformation and promoting violence, none of which should be tolerated in any civilized society due to the Tolerance Paradox.

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    May-be not talking about trans agenda and transgenderism would make your post feeling less bigoted, and more open for discussion.

    And in general denying basic human rights to people no matter the reason sucks

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    It’s been a long time that I’ve seen an actual fascist on here. Probably just another rage bait account. Fuck off. Thanks.

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    Nobody’s gonna fall for your “actual discussion without censorship” excuse, you’re obviously looking for a place where transphobia is welcome. Try xitter or reddit.com/r/conservative and GTFO off Lemmy with that shit.

    But the more important question is: why?

    Why the fuck would you WANT to be in a hate echo chamber?

    Why would you want to read this week’s made up story about some creep that put on a skirt to creep on the ladies bathroom, when instead you could watch a cat video, or a cool car or talk about yesterday’s sports game or a cute potted plant or whatever it is that you actually like?

    You have a very limited time in this world brother, why waste it being angry at some imaginary trans boogieman that will never really affect your life in any way, instead of doing something actually meaningful, or something that makes you happy?

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    Not trans here but, NO. There is no “debate” or “discussion” to be had about anyones right to exist without persecution. Full stop. It’s not your business to “discuss” it and your opinion about someone’s existence is irrelevant. It’s not “censorship”. What you’re not so slyly complaining about here is that you’re feeling the consequences of your bigotry. Take it elsewhere.