• stinerman@midwest.social
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    18 hours ago

    Law is unclear what happens to Trump and GOP certainly won’t impeach

    The law is extremely clear on what happens. Nothing. The only way the President can be removed from office is through the impeachment process. He could be conceivably charged after he is removed from office, but he would remain the President until his term ends.

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    18 hours ago

    To quote Kenan Thompson, “ain’t nothing gonna happen.” It doesn’t make the slightest difference what any of these monsters admit, or how solid the evidence. None of their crimes are news. They’ve been blatant all along, and we all know it. There is no Big Fix for us. We have already fallen for Lucy’s football too many times. Look at history. When it’s fascism time, the fascists will fascist, and the rest of us will just have to get down there in the trenches and fight. Together.

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      18 hours ago

      It’s obvious to us but aside from the Trump-can-do-no-wrong crowd, there’s a lot of oblivious people who just…don’t know.

      It’s a situation I have a hard time grappling with as someone who reads the news but I’m regularly introducing people (in-person) to political events. They know about the most recent plane crash or whatever but not that Israel killed another journalist or that Trump sent a legal resident to a concentration camp. It’s wild…but following politics is kind of a hobby. There’s so much going on all the time, you can’t just passively absorb it.

      In some ways I resent them but in other ways I’m jealous. Following it like I do has brought me a tiny bit of joy and a whole lot of stress.

  • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
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    19 hours ago

    If what the Bernie Democrats want can nearly all get done, sure. But just having a Democratic president doesn’t mean that. It doesn’t even mean what Democrats want would necessarily get done. Look at Biden’s student loan relief.

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    19 hours ago

    If it’s true that he did that, yes.

    After he’s federally pardoned, each affected state can prosecute him sequentially.

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    19 hours ago

    If he wanted to burn it down, sure why not? But he’s still a multibillionaire. It doesn’t benefit him for Democrats to be in charge.

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    19 hours ago

    Won’t do any good because even if you remove Trump and Vance over a rigged election, we’d just get President Mike Johnson.

    We’d have to remove enough congress critters to replace the Speaker with Hakeem Jeffries, THEN pull Trump and Vance.

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      19 hours ago

      It always has been previously, but technically doesn’t have to be a House member to be Speaker. In the fantasy land where it did happen, we get confirmation of that, and enough House members and Senators are replaced or convinced that they’d do the right thing, they could technically name Harris as Speaker if she did actually legitimately win. Was one of the ways people were floating to get Donald back in over Biden. Though there was no possible good outcome after Donald was shown to have won, either we’re in a timeline where election tampering actually is possible in our system, and we fell into it, or we’re in a timeline where the fact that she doesn’t have a white penis is enough to convince enough people to elect a serial rapist, both child and adult, and objective worst President of anyone alive’s lifetime legitimately.

  • cattywampas@lemm.ee
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    19 hours ago

    Take the deal, whoops what’s that, state felony charges for interfering with their elections!

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      trump is 78 years old and is obese. Neither of those two facts usually makes for longevity. Actuarial tables say he could die of natural causes this afternoon and it would be a completely normal thing.

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        18 hours ago

        Funny how you replied to someone saying ‘don’t fantasise about dream scenarios’ with a dream scenario. Just because he could die today doesn’t mean you should sit it out.

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          You’re projecting your own ideas on that, friend. I never suggesting sitting anything out. That was you.

          In the context of that post they referred to “dream scenario” implying that that action will likely never happen for Musk or trump. I was pointing out that it is very likely to happen for trump. Nothing with my statement is advocating action or inaction beyond pointing out that fact.

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    19 hours ago

    I think we can hang them both for treason no problem. Don’t need elon’s help.

  • Fletcher@lemmy.today
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    20 hours ago

    Look.

    Trump could throat-punch a homeless orphan in the middle of a church on Christmas Day and there’s not a single judge in this country who would send him to jail. The man is untouchable. He’s been convicted of 34 felonies and hasn’t spent a single day in jail. He was impeached TWICE during his last term and still hung on to the presidency.

    The only thing we can do is wait for the evil fucker to die of old age. That’s it.

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      18 hours ago

      If Luigi taught me anything, it is that waiting isn’t necessary.

      No good deed goes unpunished, unfortunately.

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    20 hours ago

    Yes, I take the deal - but he loses his American citizenship for meddling in US elections, and can’t ever get a visa here, either.

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      19 hours ago

      Nah, we hold him right here in the country and bankrupt him with civil suits from all the people he efficiently ruined. And the Fed Government will certainly have a slice of the with restoring regulatory actions against his companies and recouping contracts that were improperly granted.

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    No because rigging an election normally would take thousands of people working in secret. Trump won because America has a lot of dumb people in it

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      19 hours ago

      Trump announced before the election that he was going to cheat. This isn’t rocket science in believing he said the quiet part out loud. He has a lot of smart people working for him with flexible ethics. Not to mention, it’s always projection and they’ve been calling the d’s cheats for years.