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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 23 hours ago

Trump shares the message he receives from NATO leader Mark Rutte

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Trump shares the message he receives from NATO leader Mark Rutte

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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 23 hours ago
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    22 hours ago

    This can’t be real

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      Real tweet, fake text… no way any NATO leader would say “Europe is going to pay BIG” it’s just too Trump. Same with the incessant comma splices.

      But big congrats to Trump for ruining the information space so completely that I genuinely cannot tell what’s real anymore.

      • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Hasn’t Rutte always been known for being able to handle Trump well? I’m pretty sure the only way to do that is kiss his ass in a way he understands, so this doesn’t seem too surprising.

        • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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          kissing his ass and conceding all his demands is not “handling trump well” lmao

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        22 hours ago

        I’m sure EVERY European politician randomly CAPITALISES words like some LUNATIC

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          @[email protected]

          This user is great when it comes to mimicking this.

        • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
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          22 hours ago

          And signs their essay texts with their name. Very common as we all know.

        • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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          I don’t believe this is real, but the all caps words aren’t random. They’re clearly for emphasis, the same kinds of words I might capitalize for effect. That is not really the unbelievable aspect of this scenario.

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        18 hours ago

        AP is reporting this as real

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          I would love and hate to see proof that Mark Rutte really texted this to Trump.

          The “Truth” post is 100% real, inarguably, but I haven’t seen anyone reporting the picture is of a real message from Rutte to Trump.

          E: never mind that is… apparently Rutte’s office has confirmed the message is really from Rutte???

          ???

          I need to go lie down.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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            18 hours ago

            I’m confused why people are surprised at this, to be honest. It’s entirely expected.

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      10 hours ago

      “Really, really”

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      20 hours ago

      The Rutte team has confirmed it was indeed a real text sent by Mark Rutte to Trump.

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      22 hours ago

      It’s entirely expected, not sure why you’re in disbelief.

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        22 hours ago

        It reads like something Trump wrote about himself. He’s done that kind of bullshit before.

        • Bieren@lemmy.world
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          This has been my thought the whole time. It looks read like something someone with an IQ 43 would write about themselves. That or they had Grok do it.

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          18 hours ago

          Or something written to pander to him.

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          22 hours ago

          Trump has also leaked private messages before.

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        22 hours ago

        It’s saying the quiet part out loud. Surely anyone who sees this will be outraged?

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          It isn’t really a quiet part, though, never has been. NATO has openly been a millitary alliance for the purpose of maintaining Western Imperialism headed by the US, no more and no less, since its inception.

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      22 hours ago

      https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114738606142462442

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      22 hours ago

      Ran a quick search and multiple well established news outlets are reporting this.

      I’m afraid it is.

      The wording does seem very out of character for Rutte but it makes sense that he feels the need to stoop to Trump’s level and overdo the flattering.

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        21 hours ago

        Another .ml telling lies. There are only reports on this from bullshit sources. There are no major sources currently reporting this.

        Care to share your “multiple well established sources” or should we just take your word for it?

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          Another person hating .ml for stating truths which oppose their fantasy world view.

          AP: https://apnews.com/article/trump-rutte-text-message-nato-signal-6263810ac3ca77a5bf7366499f51c772

          Financial Times: https://www.ft.com/content/ce9eb7e4-7989-45f6-a3b3-3cdec73a8540

          PBS: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nato-chief-praises-trump-for-making-europe-pay-in-a-big-way-on-defense-ahead-of-historic-summit

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          Come on you can’t be this moronic.

          It’s on the official trump account on his crap social media, you need BBC to show this link to you?

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            You really think people would go online and lie? Just because he posted it does not make it a real text. It does appear to be genuine though, but don’t just trust things cause someone said/posted it

            • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              11 hours ago

              The text is real, too.

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              Everyone can lie, even if Rutte said that the print is false he could also be lying(but they confirm that this is real). The point is, Trump actually post this shit, don’t need to be a fucking moron and say “Another .ml telling lies”

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          please stop with this ml bullshit

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            Removed by mod

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              @[email protected] was talking about Maeruu complaining about Lemmy.ml as the bullshit, umbrella was not claiming Maeruu’s take was Marxist-Leninist and that is bad. Really not sure how you got that one confused.

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      Things I’d want to know before deciding for myself whether the screenshot montage is real, regardless of whether Trump shared it (he did):

      • Have we seen other screenshots where Trump use enormous font sizes? Is that how bigger system text looks in this app? He’s not exactly youthful, so it’s no great surprise, but worth asking the question.
      • Is it realistic that Trump or an aide would have screenshotted the entire message within two minutes of it being received?
      • Does this messaging app routinely display the contact name offset and the profile image vertically cropped? What app is it?
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      This is not real and does not belong in “World News”

      It is posted by and primarily upvoted by .ml users.

      Don’t fall for their bullshit.

      Looking further into it you can see that almost every post in “World News” is from .ml users. They are very anti-western everything but post western “news” heavily in communities. I wonder why?

      Furthermore they are brigading comments in this thread. Don’t believe me, just look at the upvote/downvote activity for comments here.

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        This is not real

        Don’t fall for their bullshit.

        It turns out that—as usual—it is real.

        It is posted by and primarily upvoted by .ml users.

        Looking further into it you can see that almost every post in “World News” is from .ml users.

        [email protected] is a lemmy.ml community. Why wouldn’t we be posting and voting in our own community on our own instance?

        They are very anti-western everything but post western “news” heavily in communities. I wonder why?

        “The reason I use western sources when possible is because those are the only sources that western liberals tend to accept.”

        Furthermore they are brigading comments in this thread. Don’t believe me, just look at the upvote/downvote activity for comments here.

        Yes, we’re “brigading” our own community on our own instance 🙄

        On a related note, how is your vote manipulation report coming along[1][2]? Given your trivially disprovable accusations here, I predict it will be more of the same.

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        This is Lemmy.ml’s World News community. Lemmy.ml users are not brigading their own World News community, lmao. The large proportion of Marxists on Lemmy.ml does lead to an anti-western bias, if you want a pro-western bias there are other World News communities like on Lemmy.world.

        If you have proof that it’s fake I would like to see it, but this is a real truth social post from Trump even if he’s lying.

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          Proof that it’s fake?

          How about you provide proof that it’s real? I still see no sources other than what .ml users say. Is that how y’all operate just parrot each other and blindly believe?

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            Here’s France 24 reporting on it. Trump posted the tweet, it looks like, whether he made it up or not isn’t yet known. Neither option would be unsurprising. Not sure what your bone to pick with Lemmy.ml is. Plus, you made the authoritative claim that it’s fake, if you suspect it’s fake then just say that, don’t pretend you have definitive proof if you don’t.

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            https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114738606142462442

            Good enough source for you?

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              Even better, thanks! Truth Social wasn’t working on my phone, lol

      • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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        eating paint is bad for you

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