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Sarcastic bluesky post saying [time traveling back to 1933 to make sure to tell Germans to protest Hitler less vigorously so as not to alienate bougie centrists who want to go to brunch undisturbed, thus preventing the rise of fascism]
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Sarcastic bluesky post saying [time traveling back to 1933 to make sure to tell Germans to protest Hitler less vigorously so as not to alienate bougie centrists who want to go to brunch undisturbed, thus preventing the rise of fascism]
No, in this case, the government would have killed 0 Jews, and instead provided weapons and ammunition to a long-time ally who suffered a brutal terrorist attack just a year prior and was in the middle of a bloody vengeance campaign that had gone way beyond the scope of neutralizing the enemy and had become a full blown extermination campaign in which Hitler was outright calling for the use of nuclear weapons and complete annihilation.
But, that far in to the weeds and the analogy breaks down because you’re just describing the very specific situation that happened back in November.
Israel was always going to do just want they wanted to unless someone stood up to them. That was never going to be Trump, nor was it going to be Harris, let’s be real here for a second. That sweet, sweet AIPAC cash is just too hard to say no to, and, frankly, Israel is a really charged topic that candidates would prefer to avoid. I find your distinction meaningless, it’s like handing an alcoholic booze while saying “nooo, please don’t drink it, it’s bad for you” only to turn around say that you didn’t help them destroy their life because you oh so gently reminded them that booze is bad for their health as you handed it to them. This is a cigarette company defense.
They’re doing it to Trump, just on Iran, because they know Trump isn’t going to meaningfully stand up to them, while still not wanting to get the US into full blown war. They’d be doing it to Harris too, because the DNC didn’t even trust her enough to let her run her own campaign, they sure as fuck weren’t going to let her run her own presidency. We’d probably have some DNC turbodonor or AIPAC mf as SecDef.
The genocide of Palestinians has been going on for nearly a century, it didn’t start after October 7th. Israel was founded on settler-colonialism and erasure of Palestinians, including stealing cultural symbols like food and claiming it as “Israeli.”
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Nah, sorry but this is an absolutely horrendous take. Modern Israel is fundamentally an early settler-colonial project, and thus is based on genocide. The only solution is a single, secular and democratic Palestine, with minority protections. There isn’t anything genetic about the Palestinian/Settler conflict, in fact a large number of Israelis are from the US and Europe, not actually born in Israel.
Kamala would never stem the flow of support for Israel, because Israel’s role in the broader US Empire is as a mega-US millitary base in the Middle East, to keep oil flowing and pressure the Middle East into conceding to US interests above all. Kamala knew this, Biden knew this, Trump knows this too. None of them ever would have stopped the gravy train, the US depends on it economically. The loss of Israel would be a devastating blow for US soft power in the region, hence Biden’s endless public critique while privately sending everything necessary. The difference with Trump is that it’s all above the table and public facing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)
You don’t get to call truth an"absolutely horrendous take", but it’s kinda the only tool the proxy-trump voters have left to save a little face, so whatever floats your boat.
What, exactly, does linking a Wikipedia page dispute about what I’ve said? What “truth?” I called your analysis a horrendous take because it was, Israel pre-October 7 was commiting genocide, and was commiting genocide even back when it was founded three quarters of a century ago. Kamala would never oppose Israel. I also don’t like the insinuation that I’m a Trump voter, I never voted for Trump nor any republican, ever. Calling your take bad wasn’t my “only tool,” I dismantled your argument that capes for Zionist genocide of Palestinians.
Here’s some good reading for you, since you love linking articles:
To Stop Marx, They Made Zion
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
Strategy for the Liberation of Palestine
State of Israel
State of Palestine
I’m not insinuating that, I’m stating that you are a proxy trump voter. There is a difference.
Let put it this way. If this ongoing genocide has always been such an issue since the 1940s, where the fuck were the people protesting voting and calling for a cessation of support during previous elections? Why wasn’t this laid at the feet of Trump on 2024, or Biden and Trump in 2020, or Clinton and Trump in 2016, or Obama and Romney in 2012? The answer is that it was a wedge issue driven into the anti-trump voters by Republicans and their foreign backers in a boldface attempt to fragment the voting bloc. Full stop. People fell for it, they fell for it fucking hard, they put the idealized fairytale ending of an endless war between two groups of religious zealots above the safety of immigrants, the rights of citizens, the prosecution of corrupt politicians and the general rule of law here.
You got conned into being a proxy trump voter. 2 party system sucks, I know. I wish it was all sunshine, rainbows, and an intelligent and compassionate electorate, but we’re not going to get that if we keep going all in on a 0.3% chance of winning just the Presidency for 4 years. Baby steps. You gotta walk before you can run.
Not voting for Trump is not voting for Trump. If I wanted Trump to win, I would have voted for Trump. Simple as that.
Secondly, pro-Palestinian protests have been ongoing since Palestine was first colonized by the settler Zionists. The increase in support over time for such protests comes from the increased relevance of social media, and the erosion of influence of traditional media, which is easier to control. I’ve been pro-Palestine for decades, the tremendous increase in opposition to genocide has been an incredible tilt that I have never seen before, and it’s thanks to the fact that daily people are seeing Zionists gun down dozens of Palestinians.
There is precisely no evidence of foreign actors pointing out the bipartisan support for genocide as a means to get Trump elected. Zero. This is an utter fantasy you invented in order to reconcile your willing participation in a genocidal system.
And no, electoralism doesn’t work. Leftists have known this, which is why Leftists advocate for getting organized, and not for distilling your connection to the political process to a single vote cast once every 2-4 years.
That’s not the argument I made. I said that there were Republicans and foreign actors targeting the anti-trump voting bloc.
So who did you vote for in the last 4 elections?
Gotcha, so where are we at with that “leftist” party? I don’t see much organizing going on over there.
Proxy voting for trump is proxy voting for trump. If you wanted trump to lose, you would have voted for the viable candidate that stood a chance of beating him. Simple as that.