This was already covered in a video by Dave2d (Lemmy discussion here), but it’s great to see more widespread coverage of how great performance is for SteamOS vs windows.

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    17 hours ago

    there’s no way for users to reliably remove it

    I’m not sure if this is true for the ones backed by the larger companies, like EAC. It’s possible to completely remove EAC using their installer.

    Games like valorant are filled with cheaters despite using kernel anticheat

    In my experience, this is untrue. Valorant isn’t “filled” with cheaters in the same way Apex Legends is.

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      16 hours ago

      The anti-cheat programs provide uninstall options, but you’re basically just assuming they actually uninstalled and didn’t leave anything behind. You don’t have any control over whether it actually fully removes itself or not, it’s very difficult to verify that nothing was left behind, and some have been caught leaving software behind or reinstalling themselves silently later.

      Apex Legends also has kernel anti-cheat, so my point still stands. Also Apex legends famously had people’s machines get hacked through it’s anti-cheat during a tournament.

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        14 hours ago

        Some anti cheat work better than others, and it depends on how much you’d like to play the game that needs it. Plenty of games without.

        EAC does not hide its process and you can see it running. If it’s not, perhaps it has left files behind, but that’s a Windows issue more than EAC’s.

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          6 hours ago

          The fundamental issue with kernel anticheat is you’re giving full control and unlimited monitoring of your computer to a company, and trusting them to not abuse that access. Being able to see some processes it runs isn’t any kind of guarantee that those processes aren’t doing something undesirable, and doesn’t guarantee that there aren’t other processes doing things secretly.

          EAC should be one of the better ones, but it’s still a question of:

          1. Do you trust Epic Games to act in your best interest?
          2. Do you trust Epic Games to dispose of your personal info and not sell it or use it? (remember, it’s not a question of whether your info is being collected, anticheat programs are intended to gather a lot of info on everything you do on your PC so it can be confirmed if you’re cheating. So you are being spied on, it’s just a question of whether they delete the data after harvesting it or decide to sell/use the data already on their servers that you consented to giving them when you accepted the game’s ToS).
          3. Do you think that Tencent’s partial ownership of Epic impacts either of the above questions?
          4. Do you think that NSA and other government agencies are going to use the anticheat to spy on your computer, either through legal requirement or through undisclosed backdoors?