• Voldemort@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/Beyond-the-Games/Human-Rights/IOC-Framework-Fairness-Inclusion-Non-discrimination-2021.pdf

    Sports decide themselves, of which world rowing and boxing have blanket bans. Athletics, cycling, swimming, rugby and cricket are bans if the transition was after puberty. Triathlon, tennis and archery requires testosterone testing. And all other sporting bodies are on a case by case basis.

    That’s why we don’t see them because the Olympics themselves have said:

    high-level organised sporting competitions - relies on a level playing field, where no athlete has an unfair and disproportionate advantage over the rest.

    I’m tired of replying to everyone, please put more effort into your argument

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      9 hours ago

      Please stop gobbling right wing propaganda and make a sensible argument yourself, and then we can have a discussion. “centrist”.

      You won’t though. So don’t waste people’s time.

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        6 hours ago

        I didn’t, I cited the literal Olympics. I have cited medical studies, and I have defended my position where everyone then returns to insults and statements like this.

        Unless you have evidence that what I said was incorrect, you are infact wrong. One, only ONE person has cited one study that is inconclusive and I congratulated them because at least they showed there is some conflicting research but you haven’t even bothered to try.

        If you are going to throw your opinion around, at least back it up with weight. Cite studies, link articles, or form a proper argument, because if I can refute your claim before I’ve even had my morning coffee than you still have room to make a half decent point.

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          5 hours ago

          You never bothered to look into it. You decided that since trans people are banned now, they must always have been banned. They were allowed to play for a long time before the ban, in fact, and none of the scare mongering was true. There was no trans domination.

          You don’t really care though. That you care about the issue at all is evidence you’ve fallen for the conservative campaign against trans people, because it’s an entirely invented issue. You listened to what the conservative pundits said, maybe you even read one of the Heritage Foundation’s studies. But you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about, and I’ve been having this argument with fucking “centrists” like you for over a decade who think we’re a fine scapegoat for your socially acceptable bigotry.

          You aren’t a centrist. There is no center when one side wants the elimination of the other, and that’s the ultimate end goal here. You think you’re having a dandy little political discussion, but this is just a stepping stone on the campaign to convince the public that trans women are men and therefore trans people are sick, and need to be removed from society. When you run around and parrot their talking points on a subject you know little about its not a fun debate, it’s plain bigotry and its not fucking welcome.

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            3 hours ago

            Yeah rules tend to be updated when new information is presented. Stereroids were also not banned once upon a time, because hardly any information about their use in sport existed, and when new information was presented it was promptly banned.

            You may not care enough to present evidence to me, but how do you expect to sway the Olympics? Your rant is not going to change the Olympics policies so if you want to make the world a better place for you and your peers, find and cite evidence, maybe fund new studies to find convincing evidence to present to the Olympics and the greater world.

            You cannot expect to change opinions when you have no evidence to back up what you claim. And you will also not convince people by throwing labels and insults around, you’ll only make the very people against you dig their heels in, which is the last thing you want. I don’t care what you call me, I care about evidence and so far you have failed to convince as a result.

            Not everything is black and white, I’m against unfair competition as is the Olympics. That does not mean I’m against trans people, there is a substantial difference.