Microsoft EVP Yusuf Mehdi said in a blog post last week that Windows powers over a billion active devices globally. This might sound like a healthy number, but according to ZDNET, the Microsoft annual report for 2022 said that more than 1.4 billion devices were running Windows 10 or 11. Given that these documents contain material information and have allegedly been pored over by the tech giant’s lawyers, we can safely assume that Windows’ user base has been quietly shrinking in the past three years, shedding around 400 million users.

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    12 hours ago

    1/3 of its Windows customers, not of all of its customers. I bet they still make plenty of money with Azure and Office 365.

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        im glad they are losing users then.

        if not being their cash cow gotta mean we get treated like this, then they should not have the market cornered.

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        Especially since the majority of computer users worldwide now no longer use a PC to do their computing. The average consumer now uses Windows only at work. Their personal device, whatever it is, runs Android or is some manner of iDevice, two platforms which have thoroughly eaten Microsoft’s lunch.

        It’s too bad for Microsoft that their mobile platform – Windows Mobile, er, I mean Windows 8 RT, er, actually it was Pocket PC, um, no wait, it was Windows CE, et. cetera – all bombed so spectacularly, and the most recent one mere moments before Google took over the world.

        I imagine Microsoft is no longer eyeing private users as a cash cow except purely as advertising targets.

        It’s only a matter of time before some brilliant dipshit over there manages to envision Windows as a subscription service aimed solely at businesses, and the days of Windows as a standalone OS will be over.

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          Yes, I don’t like Windows one bit anymore but back then, Windows Mobile was very solid! I loved my Lumia phones.

          If Windows becomes a sub service for business only, three things three things can happen:

          1 Mac’s become the most sold consumer product

          2 Linux takes off like never before

          3 Some consumer version where ads accompany every mouse click

          I hope it’s gonna be number two

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          I could imagine a future where Windows is just a proprietary DE over a Linux system. I don’t think it’s coming anytime soon because of the development cost it would impose, but I don’t see why they would go to such efforts maintaining a system they could get for free if the desktop user base keeps shrinking. They’re just too greedy not to do that. Even the backwards compatibility with Windows software is becoming a solved problem.

          Aside from my above rant, the PC is definitely fast becoming an enthusiast/business platform. I opened a retirement account the other day through my smart phone!

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            MS did a shift like that already. The shift from MS-DOS to NT was transparent to the vast majority of people to the point that most people didn’t realize they were two different OSes.

            I don’t see why they couldn’t do it again. NTVDM was similar in concept to what wine does. Imagine if MS actively contributed to wine, or a wine like project.

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            Well a bunch of them are using WSL to do their work, which isn’t the same, but shows how many people are just stuck with a Windows box.

            In StackOverflow 2024 survey ~17% of both professional and personal use users were using WSL.

            Source: StackOverflow 2024 Survey

            Edit - A word went missing due to my battle with autocorrect. 😩

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              This often sucks when the server and terminal are onsite. Put the server elsewhere and only those with best connections will like it. Latency is a bitch.

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          It’s only a matter of time before some brilliant dipshit over there manages to envision Windows as a subscription service aimed solely at businesses

          I think at least one M365 plan includes a windows license now.

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        i was a MS employee once. Windows hasn’t been their focus since Windows XP. Once they discovered the profit margins of Office 98… Windows was just a way to keep you using Office

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          This makes sense. I have a friend from way back in HS who interned there while he was working on his degree who said that cloud services was the priority at the time, and Windows was more just a vehicle that they continued to maintain. That continues to be the approximate temperature of the product and is in line with my expectations.