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It surprises me how many system utilities I use that are older than I am. I am currently initializing a disk on a cloud server with an application that was written when Ford was the US president.
Can you say which application it is? Does it run on a mainframe? Any idea what language was used to program it?
Sorry this is just quite interesting.
Snot Flickerman was right, it’s dd. It was in the docs I linked to show the commands. It runs on anything with storage devices and an operating system. I mainung use it on Windows servers running on AWS.
I’m gonna hazard a guess at
dd
SS7, part of the old ass 2g and 3g networks
Kinda surprised this doesn’t have more upvotes considering it seems that it continues to be a massive security vulnerability.
Yep and a family member of mine was a victim of a SS7 attack yesterday
Are they a CEO or something?
If they are just an average person, this is kinda unsettling… 😬
Average person, nothing special. Got a SMS OTP code for their Uber account and changed the information (email, phone #).
Floppy disk.
The military loves them.
Dildoes and pocket pussies
fax machines, both in Germany and Japan.
They’re common in the US too in doctors offices and hospitals because of the security requirements of transmitting patient records and such.
As someone who directly manages faxing in the company i work for, yup! In Healthcare and we send out results to doctors and hospitals through faxing all day every day. We have mostly converted to electronic fax. We still control the servers on prem but the account is linked to a cloud solution so all the faxes are created with the servers and instead of using our own telephony solution like we used to, we send directly over internet to the provider who then sends out to the clients at the last leg. Hundreds of thousands of pages every month. From my understanding, it’s still the easiest solution to get away with not having to implement some new system that will be subjected to audits. Faxes are accepted, and little is required to show for compliance.
Interesting, how is eFax any more secure than email? The advantage of fax is it’s one machine to one machine, no possibility of interception without physically tapping the POTS line.
It’s not. Information is secure at rest and encrypted during transfer, but once it reaches the part where it is sent over voip using a telecom provider, it has the same issues as it always did. We use it because its the best way to send this many faxes, as well as automate things using our internal applications to send faxes through it as well as other applications that we leverage its API to use the service. One advantage that makes it semi more secure is if we send a fax to another client that also uses the same service as we are then then it’s actually a secure stream for the entire path.
Legally defined as secure, not actually secure.
They are fairly insecure in practice, since they are throwing the data at misdialed numbers and they are frequently placed in shared and insecure locations in the building where lots of people can access whatever comes through.
In the US they cannot be in “insecure locations” legally. And sending HIPAA materials to the wrong number is a reportable offense.
Sure. But as someone who used to work IT with a focus on cybersecurity, physical access to anything trumps everything else, and people who put fax machines in insecure locations will also put email servers or whatever in them. Also throwing data at misdialed numbers is a tiny threat because the odds of transposing a number or whatever and also getting a fax machine are pretty tiny.
Although the guy above you was just talking about how he works in the industry and they mostly do efax now, which… Iono how that’s supposed to be more secure than just email or whatever. I guess if you’re sending to physical machines it’s more secure on that end, but if the senders are using efax some of the receivers prolly are too, at which point we’ve lost the whole point of using fax machines.
I used to work at a retail store not even ten years ago, and we would submit delivery orders via fax. It’s weird until you realize they’re great for reliability and record-keeping. No batteries needed, totally existing infrastructure, kinda fun to use tbh.
And it’s WAY older than people think. The first patent for a fax like machine was granted in 1843.
IPv4.
IPv6 became a recognized standard by 1998.
Fucking NAT. Never should have been allowed to escape from the lab.
Lolol, you’re not wrong. NAT made IPv6 a later problem
I ❤️ IPv4
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There’s no place like
::1I can’t understand that gibberish, speak RFC 791 like a true patriot
Based on how ISPs seem to not get their CGNAT setups right, it’s not going away any time soon.
I’m almost at the point where all of my connections are IPv6, but still hampered by my mobile provider (ironically, since IPv6 was generally adopted earlier on mobile in many countries).
IPv6 is such an ugly monster.
It just isn’t and I’m sick of people being scared of hexadecimals lol
You can even spell stuff with them which is way easier to remember, my router’s ULA is fd13:dead:beef::1
:cafe:babe: is another common one. Or :acdc:feed: .
As a South African, I have never even seen IPv6. My university has two /16 blocks and no NATing
Air traffic control still uses floppy disks, windows 95, and a plastic board of paper tag numbers to keep track of shit instead of a computer.
To be fair I have infinity more confidence in the system you just described than whatever tech bro disruptor was going to pitch
Not all of them, most of ATC in EASA airspace is Linux based and use electronic strips instead of the plastic paper strips.
But the foundation of the ground/ground communication is still AFTN based on x400 network (Europe used to have an X.25 network for its CIDIN communications).
The latest and newest tech for international data exchange is AMHS based on X400, often it is x400 over IP ok, but still a 50 years or so tech.
The Wheel. We should’ve graduated to antigravity by now, don’t you think?
Back to the Future lied to me again!
In fact, it didn’t.
Hoverboards actually do exist. And for bonus points, so do speeder bikes. You probably already know about real-life jetpacks.
I wish I could live another 100 years to see better optimized versions of them.
I found a new exotic propulsion device to hang all my hopes on, so maybe we can get it soon!
we dont posess the knowlegde of how to do that, that isnt done by magnetism. maybe if aliens come to earth than maybe.
Talking to a good friend 20 years ago, very smart guy, and he was thinking we already artificial gravity.
Phone numbers
A decade ago, I thought phone numbers would soon die out. Instead, the most popular messaging apps use them as identifiers and adoption of those in North America is poor.
Phone numbers are the new ICQ number
Mindblown
Fax machines will never die no matter how they are mocked. It simply is the easiest way to send documents with private information and it’s fast. At least we have e-faxing now to receive documents.
Please don’t tell me you buy that “they can’t be hacked”. It’s pretty much on the same tier as email.
Not so much they can’t be hacked, but that nobody seems to bother to.
Well, I don’t really love that as a security philosophy. If it’s somehow not going on now it will be soon.
Microsoft Windows
If some of the stories are to be believed, some of the code dates back to 3.1/dos too
Oh you can clearly see that this is true when you launch certain programs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/o1x183/the_famous_windows_31_dialogue_is_again_in/
Oh that’s tremendous, I don’t run windows to see this. But come to think of it I have come across some ancient screens doing odbc/data connections ancient popups in excel at work!
UNIX
A lot of production industry still runs on PLC from the 90s or older and uses DOS supervision systems. They would continue using it but are usually forced to upgrade once they run out of spare parts and / or staff that can maintain it.
Yep, my most important tool at work is controlled by DOS software running in a 386. Plenty of Windows XP’s around too.
Radio. I still listen to radio over the airwaves, and received by an antenna, as it has been done since 1920.
Bicycles are not much different since around 1900.
Car thermostats for the radiator. You don’t want the coolant flowing when the engine first starts, because it will run like shit. So you have a cylinder filled with wax that expands with heat. That controls a valve to set the flow of coolant. Low tech, works fine, no particular reason to change it.
Is that how the covers over the radiator are operated as well
I thought it was just a spring that expanded with heat and opened/closed with the expansion?
Every one I’ve seen or replaced was just that. No idea what the wax thing is about so I looked it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_thermostatic_element
OP’s right!
