What specifically do you not like about it. And I don’t just mean “it’s too hard”, what specifically is hard?
I feel like most people would like mathematics, but the education system failed them, teaching in a way that’s not enjoyable.
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It’s hard for me to remember all of the different formulas and remembering when to use what.
Its so easy:
b square plus and minus the the square root of negative b minus 2ac all over 2a???
Edit: fuck, i forgor💀
Swap neg b with b square and you got it. I have recently used the quadratic equation for what I hope is the last time ever.
Edit: Oh, and I think it’s 4ac.
Maybe we should have open book exams for maths…
Because through my game development career I learned to solve mathematical problems algorithmically, and my brain is just structured that way, I cannot do formulas. Well I can, but it takes active fighting against my brain structure.
I’m good at math but I’m slow at it. I would need my own time to solve a problem. But school always needed it done in a very short amount of time.
Simply put what you find easy somebody else doesn’t and same in the reverse.
What do you enjoy? Somebody else won’t. Everybody’s mind is wired differently. It’s very much the same reason. Why one person will enjoy working on their car. Getting their hands greasy and the next person would never enjoy that.
I just don’t care for it. I know it matters and makes up all our rules for the physical world and everything but it’s not interesting to me. I’m much more interested in social/psychological studies of life, so math talk just flies over my head most of the time.
Also would agree with you about the educational system though. Growing up I was always held back and taken aside because I wasn’t doing the math either fast enough or “the right way”. I learned different tricks for multiplication than were taught at my school, but I would get to the correct answer. I was punished for this. It also shouldn’t matter how fast you can do math, as long as you’re getting the right answer. I fucking hated “math minutes” and had a lot of shitty teachers. Had some good ones too though.
If you don’t mind, what the hell is a math minute? Is that some form of torture where you have to do math in a minute?
Yes exactly that. They’d give us a sheet of equations and we were supposed to complete it in one minute. It’s usually basic stuff like addition or multiplication, but mind you this was when we’re just learning it like grade 2-3. Then they would pu t us in groups based on how many equations we got through.
I was plenty good at maths up to the point where I couldn’t study more (as in, my other subject choices locked me out of taking the next stage, A-level). However in general I found the more complex stuff abstract and characterless.
For example statistics bored me. We’re working out the upper quartile something something? To what end?
I’ve used maths for accounts, programming, carpentry, and so forth, but that’s always been fairly basic stuff. The more advanced stuff has never been of the slightest value to me (I still don’t know why I, a layman, should give a shit about factorisation, prime numbers, happy numbers, etc…). I am not saying that it has no value - simply that to me personally it might as well be memorising the principles behind a naming scheme for shades of grey paint. I can learn the principles and they make sense, but so what?
I pretty much felt the same way about the higher levels of chemistry. Oh these are ionic bonds? Okay…?
My teachers were excellent and enthusiastic (my entire maths class got the highest grade possible, myself included) but I don’t really see what there is to like. I didn’t dislike it, I was just indifferent. The easier stuff could be like a basic puzzle game, the more complex stuff I could apply the system I learned and provide the correct, if pointless, answer.
It felt like being taught someone else’s complex system for sorting different sizes of white paper, I suppose I could say.
I enjoy the concepts and structures of mathematics. Fractal geometry, holomorphic dynamics, computational theory, uncertainty principles and all that are fascinating as hell. Discrete systems dancing with continuous integrals at process limits.
I DO NOT ENJOY working with math. Specifically I cant read complex equations. I don’t have an attention disorder but I swear the moment I try reading anything that looks like this I get overloaded and nope out. If it aint highschool algebra with PEMDAS I cant do it. If you put a bullet to my head and pinned my survival on properly solving a quadratic equation I’d just tell you to shoot me.

The concepts are cool once you can get past the notation to understand the ontology of whats trying to be conveyed. The actual expanded out notations and trying to do work with them is a fuckin nightmare.
Also since im ranting can I just say, across STEM the biggest problem is the naming convention. Math and science would be at least 60% more accessable if we went back and renamed all theorems, hypothesis, proofs, to be what they are about instead of just shouting out the guy who discovered it. “eulers identity” doesnt mean a fucking thing. Neither does scrodingers equations or the riemann hypothesis or turing machines. THESE ARE NOT ACCESSABLE NAMES THEY CONVEY NOTHING INTRINSICALLY BESIDES SOME DEAD GUYS LAST NAME. GET SOME PROGRAMMERS WHO KNOW HOW TO ACTUALLY DECLARE HUMAN READABLE STRINGS FOR YOUR FUCKING ABSTRACTION OBJECTS.
This is basically how I feel. I love physics…concepts. Relativity is really cool. Optics is really cool. Magnetism is really cool.
Sitting down to calculate the force a charged particle feels in an electric field if fired at a certain velocity? That sucks. It’s so easy to make a mistake and a chore to do.
Also, to your point about naming conventions, it’s an unfortunate side effect of always building on top of existing work. Why is integral symbol the way it is? Isaac Newton wrote an S next to his calculations (I think for “sum”, but I could be wrong). A lot of math is really old. What was a good way of keeping track of math concepts 300 years ago? Idk, but that Riemann guy came up with a way to add an infinite amount of numbers.
Sure we could rename everything, but then all the textbooks written beforehand would be really confusing.
I’m bad at it and I get numbers mixed up pretty easily.
Example: I went to a pro sports game over the weekend. I sat 4 of us in the wrong row because I read the row number wrong. I saw row 12 but read row 15. I tend to mix up numbers like that often and then I get the answers to math problems wrong. This is highly frustrating to me and it makes me not like math very much.
Sounds like you might be dyslexic.
I’ve long suspected it’s something like that. I am fine with words, it’s just numbers that are the issue.
I don’t trust math. Something doesn’t add up here.
Because I only have a limited amount of dopamine to spend each day, and I rather not waste it on something as boring as math. ADHD does not allow me to pursue things that don’t interest me unless I’m forced to.
Neurotypical people with plenty of dopamine to spare may struggle to understand the concept of their brain physically stopping their body from doing anything that doesn’t feel satisfying nor rewarding to do.
Because my brain had/has enough room to hold diagraming sentences or higher mathematics. And I chose the one that allows for me to insult people in a way where they know I’m insulting them, but are unable to articulate how I’m insulting them.
it’s not that I don’t like it, I just don’t like it as much as I used to.
I wanted to be a math teacher once upon a time. then, one year the teacher I really looked up to held the entire class back for over two months because 3-5 students couldn’t grasp sin cos & tan. it should have taken us three weeks but instead took us almost three times as long.
by the end of it, the students that still didn’t grasp it still didn’t grasp it and the students that did grasp it no longer grasped it.
I was burnt out on it and honestly threw myself into tech just to get the fuck away from math.
worked out in my favor. teachers get paid three to four times less than I do currently, so it was a win.
I still couldn’t give a fuck about sin cos & tan.
Because the mathematics literature fucking sucks.
It is written by math nerds for math nerds. Show me all the fucking proof, you just spent 10 pages talking about anything and everything but you can’t expand on how your formula has been transformed because of whatever theorem.
How many god damn time have I read something akin to “the proof is left to the reader. The resulting formula is [something entirely new].”
Like fuck you, show me how it’s done.
I never sucked but I’m bad at abstract thought (if you can call it that), so I never enjoyed math. I’m much more of a visual/ auditory learner. Things like geometry were easy, but once I got to calculus I said “fuck this”.










