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    1 year ago

    That Blizzard is selling their games on Steam at all speaks volumes about how poorly they are doing.

    All of the design talent and experience has been purged from their ranks in the last 10-12 years. They are a trash tier developer and have burned all the nostalgic goodwill of their past successes.

    Kotick killed the golden goose, ruined countless careers and lives, and now he gets to leave with hundreds of millions at the end of the year. Capitalism at is finest.

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      That Blizzard is selling their games on Steam at all speaks volumes about how poorly they are doing.

      No, it doesn’t at all. All of this was just preparation for the Microsoft acquisition, by having Actiblizzard games in a third party platform as a way to show that they’re “not creating a monopoly”

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            I agree, but if Blizzard was just trying to pretend to be a fair company, they launched their product on a near monopoly platform and chose badly.

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              Steam is not a monolopy platform. The Blizzard launcher is more of a monolopy platform than Steam is. Epic pays for exclusivity deals to keep games off other launchers. Steam has never done that with any games except their own.

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      All of the design talent and experience has been purged from their ranks in the last 10-12 years. They are a trash tier developer and have burned all the nostalgic goodwill of their past successes.

      What’s crazy amongst all this madness is whatever skeleton crew they stuck in a closet to tend to the corpse of D3 has been knocking it out of the park lately. It’s like they got a green light to do whatever and started ticking features from the community wishlist. It won’t last much longer as after next season it’ll just be cycling through previous content. But at least for now, someone over there appears to care.

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      That Blizzard is selling their games on Steam at all speaks volumes about how poorly they are doing.

      And at a 25% discount so soon after launch. It’s crazy!

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      It’s so sad to see one of the greatest gaming companies in history go down such a dark path…

      It feels like almost yesterday when I was unwrapping that fresh copy of WarCraft II and being stunned by the CGI intro, seeing the Orcs on their great warships and thinking “Holy hell”.

      What happened, man? Why does money ruin absolutely fucking everything?

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        Why does money ruin absolutely fucking everything?

        Because nobody who gets a sufficiently large amount of it to stop worrying about their finances is ever satisfied with that amount of money.

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      It says nothing of how “poorly” they’re doing. A big portion of the PC master race crowd are hardcore steam Stan’s that are “no steam no buy”. Releasing on steam brings extra sales that they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten.

      As for the rest of your rant, well the less said the better. Kotick has made every part of ABK the most successful they’ve ever been.

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        A big portion of the PC master race crowd are hardcore steam Stan’s that are “no steam no buy”. Releasing on steam brings extra sales that they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten.

        Strange, looking at Steam Charts, the peak player count for them on steam is 3,442 players. Now sure that’s technically more sales, but I have to wonder if it was worth the effort.

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          Worth the effort? It’s zero effort. They don’t have to re-make the game to release it on a different PC launcher. What’s the total player count for steam? Peak is irrelevant, it’s not an online shooter that needs a huge concurrent player count.

          A quick google for steam charts shows shows a 24 hour peak concurrent players of 7,152 players, double your figure. You seem to be looking at the current number of concurrent players, not peak. 7152 x USD$60 is almost half a million dollars, just in people that played at the exact same time in the last 24 hours, for a release that would have taken 1 guy an hour to do.

          The game is also more popular on consoles than ever and available on battlenet, where most diablo players on PC buy diablo. Using steam numbers to say diablo 4 is a failure is like the people using Steam numbers to say Starfield is a failure. Those people are eating crow currently seeing as Starfield was the number 1 selling game in the US in its release month and went straight to the 7th best selling game of the year after people called it a “complete bomb”.

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            I can’t see why they would willingly let Steam have a percentage of the profit unless they desperately needed the extra exposure, when their own launcher and such has been working fine for, what, over a decade?

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              Because giving valve 30% of a new sale is better than no sale. Again - the only people buying the game on steam are people that are “no steam no buy” or people buying the game again. Diablo doesn’t need exposure, it’s one of the biggest gaming franchises around. What they want is more players and more money - not because it failed, but because that’s what profit driven companies do.

              Also microsoft release all their PC games on steam, and Microsoft just bought Blizzard so this was likely done in preparation for the purchase.

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    To be honest, most people that wanted to play the game already got the game on Battlenet, so obviously it’s not going to have large numbers.

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      And those who were waiting for Steam may have just heard the announcement about it likely coming to Game Pass in 2024.

      They’ve waited this long, why not a a little longer.

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      I loved D1-3 and had the collector editions. D4 I completed Act 1 and haven’t touched it since.

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        There’s just no soul to the game, I’m the same as you, and it really disappointed me.

        It’s the last Blizzard game I will ever buy.

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          It feels like a mobile game and just laying any of the luster of the previous games.

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      I didn’t even try it after reading initial reviews.

      They sucked all the fun out of the game.

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        I love how it’s already 25% off.

        I have 3k+ hours in Diablo II and D2R and 300-400 in D3.

        I won’t touch Diablo 4.

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          I’m content to wait a few years to see if it gets any better. I bought D3 on launch and didn’t come back until a year after the expansion.

          With the amount of microtransactions in the game it’s only a matter of time before it goes on sale for like $15, or goes free to play. I’ll get it then.

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            Hot take: I preferred D3 at launch, and was extremely disappointed when they removed trading and economy. The game got super boring to me when I could hear a up a char in a few hours, and nothing I found was actually worth anything. Without a sense of value, it’s just like “oh boy another numbers up item irrelevant to my build.”

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              The gear before loot 2.0 was atrocious. Values were too random. The best items for everyone was a perfectly rolled Skorn or whatever it was called with stats for their class. I sold and int based one for over 200 dollars.

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                I found a polearm that happened to have decent base damage, and nothing else. Sold it for $20 on the RMAH and ended up using that to buy the expansion when I finally came back.

                Can’t stand the way it works now either though. It’s basically one of those idle games now. You just play the same shit no matter what difficulty. The only difference is the number of zeros on the damage numbersnas you gradually gear up to whatever the season armor is.

                That’s what keeps people coming back to D2R. You get a new piece of gear and suddenly you can run areas that you couldn’t before. You have that carrot of maybe one day getting an enigma or eBotD, or you’ll get a good drop for another class and now you’re levelling up an alt so they can use that gear.

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          The game is 4 months old, 25% off on a sale is to be expected. The majority of a games sales are always heavily frontloaded.

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            Tell that to Elden Ring and PC Red Dead and fucking where’s my PC Returnal sale for a copy for my partner

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              Red Dead Redemption 2? I got that on PC for like AUD$20 6 months ago (RRP AUD$120). Elden Ring on PC has been half price at least plenty of times already.

              Returnal is Sony who don’t like to drop their prices too much, but it has also been on sale for half price.

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                None of those are in four months, though. Especially RDR2 hahaha

                Elden Ring has gone on sale… twice. Only once for half price (when I bought it)

                When did Returnal go on sale? It’s been on my partner’s wishlist forever.

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    Blizzard really sleeping at the wheel this past decade, they probably should have invested into talent and another IP instead of pleasing their shareholders when Activision was associated with them.

    Sucks what business does to moniize creative process/art.

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    Blizzard: “Are we the bad guys?”

    lol, who am I kidding – they don’t have enough self-introspection for that.

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    The majority of people that want to play D4 already got it through Blizzard’s own damn launcher.

    Season 1 was terrible, but I am enjoying season 2. It’s not perfect but it came with a lot of much needed QOL improvements. And I like the vampiric powers. The cosmetics are still stupid expensive though, so I’m not touching that shit.

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    There are too many good, reasonably priced games for overpriced, mediocre bs.

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      Not only that, but most people who wanted to get Diablo 4 already got it through Blizzard’s store/launcher. Despite their drop in popularity over the last decade or so, they are still very visible, so it’s not like going on Steam exposed the game to many people who wouldn’t have been aware of it if they pay any attention to gaming news.

      I only get mine from browsing Lemmy and formerly Reddit. I haven’t been paying any specific attention to Blizzard but I still knew when Diablo 4 was released and that the Overwatch I paid for has been replaced with a f2p Overwatch 2.

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    I played the beta and it was the most bland shit ever. Blizzard seems to think making shit boring as fuck and soulless is a good thing? I hate the art style of both 3 and 4 as well, no idea why Diablo games look like cartoon shit these days instead of the dope ass dark moody environments of the first two. 4 is pretty much the culmination of every bad idea Blizzard has wrapped into one

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      no idea why Diablo games look like cartoon shit these days instead of the dope ass dark moody environments of the first two.

      Diablo 2 was cartoony as hell lol. What are you talking about? If anything, 3 and 4 have gone more back towards the originals visuals.

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        Diablo 3 steered the series more towards WoW level of graphics and armour style.

        Diablo 4 is a return to form to Diablo 1 and 2.

        If you think D2 was cartoony then you need to get a CT scan.

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    This game was not engaging at all for me until like the very end. It has no replay value like the previous installments did. Not really surprising.

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    Why on earth would they release during patch 1.1 and season 1 when everyone has said it’s garbage?

    Season 2 is OK so far, but it’s still early. They actually made it possible to get something done. Release steam version after you’ve built some good will.

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      There are people who game, and then there are gamers. Guess which group of people are the ones playing Blizzard games in 2023.

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    As nice as it would be to have it on steam there is just no incentive to rebuy it. It doesn’t even take much extra work to get the battle net version running on a steam deck.

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        I think the guide I had originally followed was actually for World of Warcraft so I don’t see why you wouldnt be able to apply that to Diablo 3 - but the issue with D3 on the deck would ultimately probably be that the PC version of the game has no official controller support.

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    I bought it because I was tired of the launcher and the bnet version was gifted to me. I also wanted to do my part for bumping the numbers for linux players.