Traditionally, retiring entails leaving the workforce permanently. However, experts found that the very definition of retirement is also changing between generations.

About 41% of Gen Z and 44% of millennials — those who are currently between 27 and 42 years old — are significantly more likely to want to do some form of paid work during retirement.

This increasing preference for a lifelong income, could perhaps make the act of “retiring” obsolete.

Although younger workers don’t intend to stop working, there is still an effort to beef up their retirement savings.

It’s ok! Don’t ever retire! Just work until you die, preferably not at work, where we’d have to deal with the removal of your corpse.

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      you don’t even need a market crash, just a corrupt investor managing the fund

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        I’m not a financial wizard, “homie.” It’s not my area of expertise. I wouldn’t try doing surgery on myself either.

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          It is orders of magnitudes easier to manage your own finances after a few days of reading than becoming a doctor lol. Bankers don’t really do all that much.

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              I’m not a libertarian, but no matter what happens in the world or what social system you live in the industrial age you have to manage your own finances to some degree. It is really easy, bankers are literally criminals and by deferring to them as professionals you do a disservice to yourself and the world.

              You need a pension and your need a personal account and you need to take care of it or else the only person who will suffer in this scenario is you.

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                Financial advisors also exist for a reason. And they aren’t bankers. Bankers don’t even give financial advice when it comes to investment to have money for retirement, so I’m not sure why you keep bringing up bankers.

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                  Financial advisors are bankers, they are literally criminals that exist to take advantage of you. They get paid on commission to sell you financial products for their benefit, not necessarily yours. If they lose your money they have no consequences so I wouldn’t trust them with it. The term banker is used for all the criminals in the financial industries.

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              Don’t be your own worst enemy.

              Getting good sound advice for free is a rare event, one that shouldn’t be passed up on.

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          Diversification isn’t brain surgery. It just means buy different things. Put some into a savings account, some into your retirement account, and some shares of VOO. Consider property, gold, bitcoin, bonds, and whatever else floats your boat. Spend a few hours on Google and you’re good to go. You can obviously read and you have the internet so you’ll have no issues with any of this.

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            I have no idea what VOO means. I don’t have time to research this sort of thing. I sincerely doubt you can learn enough in a few hours on Google to ensure proper retirement investment. I think that is highly unlikely and if that is what has done it for you, you’ve just been lucky.

            Business schools in universities exist for a reason. MBAs exist for a reason.

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              I have no idea what VOO means.

              Since you can read and you have the internet, you could find out what VOO is within seconds. This learned helplessness routine of yours is not believable. You don’t need an MBA to open a bank account, or an account with a broker.

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              You know how every bank commercial says “FDIC insured” at the end? That means you’ve got insurance on your money in there up to $250K. Don’t put more than that in any account or a crash may disappear it. This is why you diversify.

              https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/121814/look-vanguards-sp-500-etf.asp

              The Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) is a fund that invests in the stocks of some of the largest companies in the United States. VOO is an exchange-traded fund (ETF) that tracks the S&P 500 index by owning all of the equities within the S&P 500. The S&P 500’s investment return is considered a gauge of the overall U.S. stock market.

              An index is a hypothetical portfolio of stocks or investments representing a specific portion of the market or the entire market. The S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) are both examples of broad-based indexes. Investors cannot invest in an index. Instead, they can invest in funds that mirror an index.

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      It’s just as easy for a market crash to get rid of your private retirement fund.

      You don’t lose it all though, at least eventually it’ll recover, to the range of somewhat to total amount of the loss.

      If it crashes five minutes before you want to retire, then yeah you’re screwed. That’s why you try to have a balanced retirement plan.

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      If that occurs, hiwever, its not just you it’s the whole economy, which in my experience leads to more neighbors acting neighborly, while when its just you and your fellow Workers, you are fucked. ymmv

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              It’s probably different in the burbs, but where real people live, the rural areas and the inner city, adversity certainty builds community.

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                Please explain why people who live in the suburbs are not humans. Try to do it without being a fascist. This should be interesting.

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                  scientifically human. But suburbanites are primarily the boss class and not the working class. The two classes have nothing in common. The members of the boss class often act incredibly fake, hence my intentional choice of the phrase “real people.”

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                    In a lot of cities, the suburbs are the only place people can afford to buy houses, so that simply isn’t true.