• this_is_router@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    if defining words is that easy for you, can you tell me: “what is a woman?”

    some words are more subjective then others and for many feelings and emotions are more important then objective facts to define anything.

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      1 year ago

      Right, so give a vague definition then. Give a conditional definiton. Say “woke is when black people are treated like humans and stuff, you know, like when they say marital rape is bad”. They won’t though, because while that is exactly what it means, they also know they can’t say it out loud.

      “Woke” is the thing that opposes their horrible and reprehensible ideas, and they know it. Hell, when DeSantis’ lawyer had to define it in court he went with “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” It’s weird though, why haven’t conservatives just grasped on to this definition? Because “woke” is a dogwhistle for “someone who isn’t a trash human like me”.

      If you want to define “woman”, I can do way better than a vague definition though. Of course, the question itself is in bad faith, but I don’t give a shit. In terms of gender: “A woman is anyone who wants to call themselves a woman and wants to be called a woman by others.”

      Just as an aside, I’m of the opinion gender is a stupid concept anyway and we should get rid of it entirely.

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      There are words that are notoriously difficult to define in such a way that every edge case is covered. For those words we use criteria. Listing off essential attributes and marking the entire list as provisionally sufficient. The Greeks figured this out 25 centuries ago, just a fyi. I know it is hard for conservatives to keep up with modern ideas but 2 and a half millennium should be enough time.

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      A women is one of the sexes, usually identified by their genitals. It is biological.

      Not to conflate with feminine, which is one of the genders at the end of the gender spectrum. Which is sociological.

      It isn’t so hard once you listen to the science and understand the difference between Biology and Sociology.

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      1 year ago

      Ok, you first. What is a woman?

      And remember, you have to be careful when defining a term in a legal capacity, just like how laws are written. These definitions are to be set in stone and not “Well I said X, but it has these extra hidden meanings that I assume others would correctly guess at”.