• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    When I’ve called out why your points

    Your sad attempts to substirute alt-history for the real thing doesn’t qualify as “calling out,” genius.

    Citations needed

    It’s mundane history. It’s so damn mundane you can find it on wikipedia. The early role Christian Zionism played in shaping the homocidal nationalist aspect of Zionism is pretty mundane, too.

    Here’s a choice quote for you:

    Contemporary Israeli historian Anita Shapira suggests that England’s Zionist evangelical Christians “passed this notion on to Jewish circles” around the 1840s, while Jewish nationalism in the early 19th century was largely met with hostility from British Jews.

    Gee… I wonder why Jewish people in Britain was hostile to the idea of antisemitism forcing them from their actual homeland for some antisemitic and colonialist fairy tale in the middle-east, eh?

    Sabbatai Zevi tried to settle the Jews in Gaza

    Jewish people moving to Palestine isn’t Zionist on it’s own, Clyde - I guess the fact that Jewish people have been present in the middle-east since forever is also (somehow) proof that Zionism is a Jewish idea, eh?

    The bit where the US meets the definition of fascism

    So, again - which part of…

    the other is the most prolific sponsor of fascist terrorism in world history.

    …are you having trouble comprehending?

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      I guess the fact that Jewish people have been present in the middle-east since forever is also (somehow) proof that Zionism is a Jewish idea, eh?

      No - it’d be the bit where their millennia old religious texts call for a return to the area.

      So, again - which part of… the other is the most prolific sponsor of fascist terrorism in world history …are you having trouble comprehending?

      I genuinely can’t explain this in simpler terms for you. The definition of fascism you’re using that describes this as fascism. I assume you don’t call the US Islamist, yet they sponsor Saudi Arabia - what’s the difference?

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        1 year ago

        their millennia old religious texts call for a return to the area.

        Jewish people were already in Palestine a millenia ago, genius. Who the hell did you think were the ancestors of modern-day Palestinians?

        I genuinely can’t

        So, again - which part of…

        the other is the most prolific sponsor of fascist terrorism in world history.

        …are you having trouble comprehending?

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          You know what - you’re right - Israel is Christian, the US is fascist despite not meeting the definition, and you’re the resident special smart boy - have a gold star ⭐