An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.

By Alice Cuddy BBC News, Jerusalem

The call to Mahmoud Shaheen came at dawn.

It was Thursday 19 October at about 06:30, and Israel had been bombing Gaza for 12 days straight.

He’d been in his third-floor, three-bedroom flat in al-Zahra, a middle-class area in the north of the Gaza Strip. Until now, it had been largely untouched by air strikes.

He’d heard a rising clamour outside. People were screaming. “You need to escape,” somebody in the street shouted, “because they will bomb the towers”.

  • mwguy@infosec.pubOPEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I mean if Hamas was replaced by a Hezbollah equivalent that would be in improvement.

    • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
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      1 year ago

      More likely the anger being created will feed ever more extremism. Beating a people into peaceful submission doesn’t work. Let alone is barbaric.

      • mwguy@infosec.pubOPEnglish
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        1 year ago

        It’s not about beating Gaza into submission. It’s about destroying the logistical facilities necessary to executing slave raids. There’s not need for Gazan to “submit” to Israel. They just need to stop attacking Israel.

        • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Those same facilities are used by civilians. It really seams about giving Palestinians the choices of submit, leave or die. This is not the road to peace.

          • mwguy@infosec.pubOPEnglish
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            1 year ago

            Those same facilities are used by civilians.

            Ya unfortunately Hamas commits warcrimes by co-locating military infrastructure with civilian infrastructure.

            • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Yes I’m sure they do. However the answer isn’t to respond with more war crimes. It just keeps escalating and innocent people keep dying. It also feeds the nutters on both sides, swelling their numbers and influence.

                • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  Other than as part of collective punishment, I don’t think colocated facility is especially contentious.

                  Edit: I read chocolate and cut and passed it because I thought chocolated was amusing. Tired dyslexic brain text processing. Co-located does remove some of the protections.

                  • mwguy@infosec.pubOPEnglish
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                    1 year ago

                    So your definition of “war crime” is unique and different from the Geneva Conventions definition of war crimes.

                    So when you say :

                    However the answer isn’t to respond with more war crimes.

                    What yiu need to realize is that people arent responding to war crimes with more war crimes. Theyre responding with force which is much less violent than what the Geneva Conventions would allow them to respond with.