Both Lemmy.world and my server rely upon Cloudflare for SSL, DDOS protection, CDN services, etc. I use it to provide me with a Cloudflare tunnel to get around not being able to forward ports.
Outages have put this dependance to question, and the same with recent news about the US government obtaining data through subpoenas. It’s a free service that takes care of many of the difficulties when it comes to hosting your service online, but everyone knows that free is not free.
What do you all think about Cloudflare?
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I literally can not see most images from lemmy.zip because of the cloudfare craptcha.
Is that what it is? I thought it was just my app being weird, but then I see similar stuff in the browser, too.
If you use your web browser for lemmy, find a .zip post and try to view the image directly when it resuses to load. You’ll immediately get a cloudfare craptcha and then for that session lemmy.zip images will be more willing to work
Doesn’t seem to do anything with Alexandrite, does Photon fare any better?
I don’t think there are any workarounds for the apps. Cloudfare uses sessions that also take what client you’re using into account. I more of said that comment so anyone can see the proof for themselves.
I found it when I needed to access a service I had running in a docker container from an external machine. It was magic at the time. I’ve used it to host private GitHub repos with access controls and it works for that too. I haven’t developed a strong opinion perhaps because of its utility.
It really is like magic. Also happy cake day.
Oh hey! Thanks :)
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I use it for a couple websites. I’m a geek and can make things work software wise but I’m absolutely not a programmer, I just don’t really grasp a lot of it. Give me some hardware and I can build whatever but I digress. Cloudflare has prevented a bunch of attacks on my sites and the caching function is helping stave off switching to a VPS for now.
It can be a PITA if you don’t have native IPv6 and use Hurricane Electric’s IPv6 tunnel broker. A lot of sites that are hooked into cloudflare and some other similar services pop up captcha’s every visit or just pain don’t function correctly. I’m going to switch to Route64 as an alternative to HE, they only provide a /56 vs a /48 but it’s not like I’m going to need that many /64’s at this point.
Feddit.org uses Anubis
I’d say selfhosting is the shelf that is standing under this.
In addition to the tech reasons mentioned, the click here checkbox is just a fucking infuriating interruption
More infuriating than captcha?
No but we need to get rid of all types
How are you planning to do it? It’s typically used as a defence against bots which are becoming more of problem not less. What you describe is Cloudflare’s managed challenge, most of the time it doesn’t even need you to click anything because you already clicked somewhere else.
Ideally a human user wouldn’t have to encounter such a system at all
In your ideal world it means that you are tracked between websites. It’s mostly how it works now.
Nah, the solution should just be done in the background. Invisible and not a forced interaction
You don’t see a problem with automating a thing against automation? It can be done but in principle the less forced human interaction you get the more privacy invasion it requires.
The modern Internet would be way worse without it, but it still sucks how centralized it is.
I use Hostinger but it isn’t free, $1.99/mo deal at the moment, normally like 13. It does blocking like cloudflare. AI scraping blocking too
It keeps blocking my VPN, which is highly irritating.
it’s making the internet centralized and proprietary, i hate it. i do understand how it’s a very easy option for website operators struggling against malicious bots though.
Decent idea, but too much power centralized to one company.
Isn’t Cloudflare more like the thin horizontal block above that one?
It fully is yes
That would imply the web stack wouldn’t crash if you remove them.
Depends how fast you pull it out.
It’s like jenga, janga? Idk how to spell it. Try pulling that one out without it crashing. Sure it could stand if it were never there in the first place, but it is there, so therefore it’s gonna be a pain to remove it safely
It’s a great service and it works mostly well. The internet is a little bit better because of them.
It’s also optional and simple to transition away from since they don’t host your environment.
