I used to be strictly materialist and atheist. Now I’m pretty spiritual. Don’t necessarily follow a religion and don’t support bigotry but yeah, I’m fairly spiritual now. This is a recent development and I never thought I’d be here like 5 years ago.

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    But you can’t start your scenario from after there’s already a fully situated authoritarian government in place. If you’re starting from there then there’s no actual law about anything at all anyway, guns or otherwise.

    And secondly, you’re arguing as if strong gun control laws means a gun ban, which aren’t at all the same thing.

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      But you can’t start your scenario from after there’s already a fully placed authoritarian government in place. If you’re starting from there then there’s no actual law about anything at all anyway, guns or otherwise.

      Fair enough. I guess it depends on how authoritarian and anti-progressive you think most western governments were before they started to tune into the Trump bs; it’s a completely different conversation if you think that we need a revolution before enacting strong gun control laws.

      And secondly, you’re arguing as if strong gun control laws means a gun ban, which aren’t at all the same thing.

      It’s really easy to declare someone who belongs to a political movement or politicized minority as ‘not fit for gun ownership’, the further away from the current political center the easier.

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        Strong gun laws doesn’t mean a test of political views for gun ownership. Strong gun laws means things like for example to have access to a gun a person must not have a recent conviction of initiating physical violence. Calling these things “strong gun laws” is really a purposely misleading term, because what we’re actually talking about is truly dirt-basic levels of obviously warranted restrictions.

        But imo if you meet these extremely reasonable precaution requirements then after that you should be able to own basically any type of weapon you want short of WMDs. As long as you can meet increasingly tighter training and ownership restrictions then imo you should even be able to own the top of lethality weapons like a tank, rpg, or jet fighter