I wouldn’t be so sure, Moh said many things that are contradicting
In fact Mohammed said the world wouldn’t end until several things happen not the other way around.
Well, notice how in every prediction he leaves what I call a “safe zone”, for example if I tell you the end is nigh if this and this and that happens, if my prediction is true, I can go on and say: see, therefore god exists. Which is wrong
If my prediction is wrong however, you still can’t deny I’m a prophet or my god exists, because:
My predictions didn’t happen ( yet ), and some of them will never happen ( probably )
Yes Mohammed, said he doesn’t know when judgment day will come in many verses of the Quran and hadith, but he also gave a date and it didn’t happen
A’isha reported that when the desert Arabs came to Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) they asked about the Last Hour as to when that would come. And he looked towards the youngest amongst them and said:
If he lives he would not grow very old that he would find your Last Hour coming to you (he would see you dying).
The prophets’ predictions are in a “safe zone” and can’t prove anything (Non-Sequitur).
The prophet claimed the Final Hour would come before a certain person died.
For 1:
The burden of proof is on you, you have failed to give any examples in your reply as I will now show.
For 2:
The prophet made hundreds of predictions in his life time some of which have already come to pass. You are correct in that a single good prediction doesn’t conclusively prove anything, however, having an unbroken record of good predictions with zero failed is proof enough for the pragmatist person.
And the prophet has never made a false prediction. Many so-called oracles have come after him and all of them have at least one failed prediction (Nostradamus for example).
For 3:
You misunderstood the hadith, from the translation it says “your Last Hour” and the meaning stands in Arabic.
The meaning of their last hour is their own deaths not the calamity of Qiyama. And it came to pass that they all died before that young child.
This is well known for average muslims.
This is even made clear in the parentheses “he would see you dying”.
You’re full of crap. I’m Muslim and Mohammed was very clear in stating how the world would end. Including how the US will be three islands way before that due to an impact of a comet. The prophecies are very detailed. Google minor and major signs of qiyama
Wait, really !
Mohammed said a similar thing, he saw a boy and said: “before this kid dies the world will end”, the kid grew up and died and still here we are…
Never said such a thing, Mohammed CLEARLY states that he doesn’t know when the world will end in several famous hadith.
In fact Mohammed said the world wouldn’t end until several things happen not the other way around.
Some of which are already happening now. Like the arabs competing to build tall buildings.
If you want to challenge this point bring a source and then we can talk.
My source: Sahih Al-Bukhari hadith number 50
I wouldn’t be so sure, Moh said many things that are contradicting
Well, notice how in every prediction he leaves what I call a “safe zone”, for example if I tell you the end is nigh if this and this and that happens, if my prediction is true, I can go on and say: see, therefore god exists. Which is wrong
If my prediction is wrong however, you still can’t deny I’m a prophet or my god exists, because:
Yes Mohammed, said he doesn’t know when judgment day will come in many verses of the Quran and hadith, but he also gave a date and it didn’t happen
Source : Sahih Muslim 2952
Mohammed can’t play that safe card here, yanno the safe zone I talked about, because if that didn’t happen then the whole thing is a lie
You make three points, correct me if I’m wrong:
For 1: The burden of proof is on you, you have failed to give any examples in your reply as I will now show.
For 2: The prophet made hundreds of predictions in his life time some of which have already come to pass. You are correct in that a single good prediction doesn’t conclusively prove anything, however, having an unbroken record of good predictions with zero failed is proof enough for the pragmatist person.
And the prophet has never made a false prediction. Many so-called oracles have come after him and all of them have at least one failed prediction (Nostradamus for example).
For 3: You misunderstood the hadith, from the translation it says “your Last Hour” and the meaning stands in Arabic.
The meaning of their last hour is their own deaths not the calamity of Qiyama. And it came to pass that they all died before that young child.
This is well known for average muslims.
This is even made clear in the parentheses “he would see you dying”.
A video a brother made with some predictions of the prophet that have already came to pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZIqd_-1Zus
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what if it did end and this is actual purgatory?
You’re full of crap. I’m Muslim and Mohammed was very clear in stating how the world would end. Including how the US will be three islands way before that due to an impact of a comet. The prophecies are very detailed. Google minor and major signs of qiyama