My parents told me that in China, they get paid once a month. And its a common story where employers refuse to pay their employees, and authorities kinda suck at doing anything about it…

Sometimes they ask you to 试工 (trial work?) for like a day (or whatever period of time they ask you to do), then they just say your performance is bad or whatever excuse, refuse to hire you, then you leave empty handed, and basically did work for free. So when my mom was was looking for work, I heard her ask “so just to make sure: I do get paid for today regardless of if you hire me or not right” (that was here in the US, at a store run by another ethnic Chinese), which is when she warned me about the shenanigans in China…

Anyways:

Here in the US, it’s always been weekly pay

I don’t think they ever had an issue with employers refusing to pay over here.

In China, my mom told me that sometimes they delay your pay for like a few days to sometimes even almost a month late… like its routine…

that China stuff was before 2010 btw

So about the overtime…

There’s no such thing as the 1.5x bonus for time over 40 hours in China…

Sometimes they have performance-based bonus pay.

Like for example: my mom worked in electronics sales (think a sort of “Best Buy” type of thing) and like get commissions for making more sales… that type of stuff…

Afaik, there has always bonus pay for overtime for the employers my parents worked for here in the US. (I mean unless you are talking about those sketchy “under the table stuff” which my parents never did cuz they don’t wanna mess the IRS.)

So hows the situation in your country? Is there like routine delayed pay or those shenanigans?

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    Midwest, USA. The last time i was hourly, I was in the UAW. We were paid weekly. Overtime was 1.5x, Sundays were 2x. Holidays were an extra 1x, so a Friday holiday would be 2x. A Saturday holiday would be 2.5x, and a Sunday holiday would be a glorious 3x.

    Since I’ve been salary. One place has been paid twice a month and the rest have been every two weeks. One place had what they called “bank hours”, where anything over 45 hours (our base week) were put into your hours bank. This could be used as additional PTO. The cap for the bank was 60 hours. After that, you were paid out straight time with your overage. Another place paid out straight time over 45 (our base week was 40 hours) that pay period, no bank.

    Where I am at now is just straight salary, but I rarely work over 40. And the pay is still significantly more than anywhere else I have worked. Which makes me wonder if those other companies knew they were over working us, and our base salaries were based on the assumption of how much OT we would be working.

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    Not sure how you got the impression that, “here in the US, it’s always weekly pay.” Semi weekly or bi-monthly is more common.

    There are some delinquent employers and I’d say despite the illegality wage theft by an employer is considered a lesser crime by our justice system than stealing from your workplace.

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        I’ve seen some fast food, retail, warehouse (Amazon), etc. have weekly pay, but the classic pay structure is every 2 weeks for hourly or twice a month for salary. Gives the payroll department time to make sure everything has been entered correctly.

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    Worked in Italy and Germany. In both the pay is monthly. In Italy the day is fixed while in Germany is more “by the end of the month” but not a fixed day.

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    US here. I’ve only ever seen bi-weekly and twice-monthly.

    Overtime is a given (legally required) for hourly work; however there are a lot of shenanigans employers do around timecards that does not get nearly as much enforcement as it should.

    It also typically takes about a month from when you start working to when you get your first paycheck. Paychecks normally come between 1 and 2 weeks after the pay period ends; and your first pay check tends to be extra delayed. Having said that, the one time this was a problem for me, I was able to walk into the HR office and get a hand written check on the spot (no clue how common that is).

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      While I completely agree, to be clear, there’s no requirement for overtime pay for salaried workers, and this is widely abused by companies

      My brother works in a unionized industry and is the only exception I know: as a salaried employee he is not part of the union but he does get some union-driven benefits …. Not that he’ll ever admit that

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    UK monthly is probably the most common but I have been paid weekly or fortnightly before.

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    I get paid every two weeks and if that deposit doesn’t hit my account then they can kiss my ass because I don’t do shit for free

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    UK, there is no standard. I’ve seen last working day of the month, every second week, 28th of every month, once per week, last Friday of the month unless that Friday is also the last day of the month in which case it’s the Friday before.

    Hourly workers tend to be paid weekly or fortnightly and salaried workers tend to be monthly but as far as I know there’s no real rules, you get whatever your employment contract says.

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    Here in the US, it’s always been weekly pay

    They never trusted their company to make it through the month?

    They never trusted their boss to remember their faces after the weekend?

    Or they never trusted themselves to have anything left after the weekend?

    :-)

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      They never trusted their company to make it through the month?

      Companies in China flop all the time, probably act this way because of their learned experience.

      Or they never trusted themselves to have anything left after the weekend?

      My parents were the type to always save.

      They claim that Americans (they mean Americans that are not of Asian descent) cant afford anything because they always spend they entire paycheck at some bar and just constantly depend on their next paycheck in order to have money.

      They own a house in Philly… and then they look at the renters and was like: “Hey son, you see all these people renting? It’s because they’re lazy and don’t work and/or they waste money gambling or doing drugs, don’t be like those people”

      And then once my depression became a thing… they say that “America turned me lazy”… bruh its called depression jesus christ mom, do you want me to kms ffs

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    In Spain you get paid at the end of the month, usually between the 25th and the 28th, depending if your bank is the same as your employer or not and if there’s a weekend in there.

    Overtime is counted by hours and is added. In the sectors I’m familiar with it is regulated and can’t exceed a certain number of hours in a year. That doesn’t mean that people don’t do much overtime but the company needs to do some acrobatics and sometimes is not worth it.

    There are trial periods where either the employer or the employee can end the contract without penalty for the company or having to justify it and the employee can quit without giving a 15 day notice.

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    People tend to like to get paid as often as possible. Its kinda redic that places don’t do weekly but every two weeks is pretty standard. Worked at a place that paid monthly loooooonnnngggg ago and they would lose people for it. Some folks could not wait a month for a paycheck because they run through money like water when they have it.

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    In France and Germany you are paid monthly, by bank transfer (for most jobs). Tax are automatically accounted for, your pay slip will show the Brute/Brutto (what the employers pay) and Net/Netto (what you receive on your bank account).

    In both countries, trial period must be paid. If you come 1 day to work and they don’t want you. They must pay you for the 1 day of work.

    In Germany, how good things are can vary. I always had a good situation because I work in the automotive industry. For most my career my contract was “Tarifvertrag” which means it is compliant with the rules of the workers union IG-Metall, this includes the salary grid. The union is negotiating the salary increase for millions of employees on a yearly basis. You stamp in and out of work. Your work time is counted to the minute. Overtime is accumulated in a time account that you can recover as paid holiday or paid at overtime rate. Working Saturdays and Sundays is paid a special rate as well (not sure, I think it is 150% Saturday and 200% Sunday). After trial period, resignation is 10 weeks notice for both the employee and employer. They must pay you all of your overtime when you leave, and let you use all the holidays you are due.

    If your profession is covered by a strong workers union, things are pretty good. Things can pretty shitty if you are independent or working for a startup or hospitality business.

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    And what are the interests rates like on your credit? (Specify credit card number.)

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        Hey c’mon don’t be silly.

        I have to post my personality quiz that tells you what kind of frog you are according to your CCV and expiration date first.

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    It largely depends on the employer. In the US, I’ve been paid weekly, every other week, and monthly.

    As for overtime, again, it depends on the employer and the jurisdiction.

    Some employers absolutely forbid overtime. Federal requirements state anything over 40 hours in a week is paid at nothing less than 1.5x the hourly rate.

    But some employers, states, and industries have their own rules. I worked at a place that paid OT for anything more than 10 hours in a day, or 40 hours in a week and paid double time for anything after the 7th day in a row.

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    US. Paid twice a month. My current employer payment system is fully automated, so my paycheck shows up at the same time down to the minute.

    Every job I can think of has paid twice a month.

    I’ve seen signs for jobs that pay daily here but it’s for entry-level jobs like for a fast food restaurant position.

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    I’ve only ever been paid weekly or bi-weekly (as in every other week, not twice a week).

    There is work on commission usually in sales. So you sell a thing, you get a percentage of the item’s sale price as a bonus. There are also tips, but that can work differently depending on the specific location; some places try to pool it all together and split evenly with management taking a cut but some other places this is illegal.

    Of course I also have yet to work a job that wasn’t enganging in wage theft, either. Which is either super bad luck on my part, or it’s just a massive fucking issue. (hint: it’s a massive fucking issue)