I just got up from conversation with a couple of older black men, that I said “well I got to go back to work and start cracking the whip.” And it occurred to me then that it was probably a really insensitive stupid thing to say.

Sadly, it hadn’t occurred to me until it’s already said.

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    I remember in my 20s the phrase “indian giver” coming out of my mouth. I hadn’t used that phrase since I was a kid of 10 years old or so.

    I immediately realized that I should never say that shit again. Adult me realized it is a horrible thing to say but as a kid I just thought it meant you gave and asked for it back. I had much more context as an adult.

    Most of the time I think before I speak, but not always.

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      Oh god I went to a public school rear a native reserve, it was always insane to me to see how many times the faculty referred to things as ‘Indian’

      Ex. we had an Indian meal day that i don’t think was either east India nor native american inspired

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          Kinda broad statement considering some do but some are offended by it.

          Of course its entirely incorrect given they aren’t in India, so it seems obvious not to call them indian (shit even some actual east Indians are offended by it, especially cause now they need to be called east indians)

          and more anecdotally all indigenous people I’ve met couldn’t careless what theyre called down to calling themselves ‘indjiuns’

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            @Sethayy the existence of people not offended by something prejudiced always seems to be dragged out as a justification for that prejudice.

            If some people being offended isn’t reason enough not to say something, then it stands to reason that some people not being offended isn’t a reason why it’s okay.

            If it is, then there are definitely people who are offended.

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              Okay, but what if they like being called indian as opposed to native american? Now you’re being offensive to those people. It’s kind of like that ridiculous latinx term that some PC people have being pushing for a few years now, I’m yet to meet anyone thay likes being called that as opposed to just latino/latina.

              If you’re in doubt what to call someone, just ask, don’t assume.

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              Excellent! So let’s just call them what country they live in, which isn’t India (nor even close to India)

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            My wife works on reservations. I haven’t heard of any of the tribes she works with being fine with being called Native American. They have their own government organization called the Bureau of Indian Affairs, it seems pretty clear that they prefer that term.

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          I hear just ‘natives’ more often. That reminds me though of this girl I knew who was just pissed about the term “African American”, saying “I ain’t got nothin to do with Africa! I’m Black!”.

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            No I’m not. My wife works on reservations. American Indians prefer to be called Indians, not Native Americans.

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      And Indian cuts. I realized it was racist when I heard the next generation calling them Chinese cuts.

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      Or Indian sunburns. Or sitting Indian style.