I’m making this post on a throwaway anonymous account because I want to ask something about how my mind works that I’m deeply ashamed of, and I want to hear honest opinions of other people’s perspective - probably mostly men but ofc anyone is welcome to answer. I’m obviously a man, in my late 20’s.
It’s about seeing attractive people in public. I’m talking about seeing girls but I guess it applies to anyone you’re attracted to.
I know I’m not supposed to stare but I can’t help it. Little glances when I think they’re not looking, looking at their bum or chest or face or legs. I will change my walking route to innocently walk past them and steal another look. If they’re nearby it’s like they occupy my mind and I have to keep looking, and I keep thinking about them and picturing them nude and imagining putting my hands on them. Never interacting, never saying anything, never openly staring, but just internally in my head.
tbh it’s not even just attractive girls, it’s basically all girls. If any girl has walked past me in the street or the store or on a bus, I have almost certainly checked her out. When I’m driving my head will turn away from the road to look at a girl on the sidewalk as I pass. I went to the beach this weekend and I couldn’t keep my eyes in front of me because of all of the girls in bikinis, and some of them undoubtedly noticed me looking.
It’s like I’m constantly scoping out everyone in my vicinity at all times, and always looking at their boobs and bums semi-consciously, and I can’t really stop. I know it’s horrible and creepy, and it probably makes them uncomfortable, but I kind of let it happen anyway. And I can’t even say why really… it’s not like I get pleasure from looking at them, or that I’m looking for someone who I could approach or anything. There’s literally no reason for it. It’s just this passive activity that my brain automatically does to all girls at all times. And… I will pick a different route to walk along a more busy street just because I know there will be more girls to look at.
When a guy walks past I probably couldn’t tell you what he was wearing, or his hairstyle, or what he looks like. I don’t notice. But when a girl walks past I notice all the details of her appearance, her body shape, her boobs in particular, her hair and face. I’m kinda disgusted by this aspect of my mind.
Obviously I know people find other people attractive and check people out. But… is it this constant for everyone? Are you unable to keep your eyes and mind away when someone attractive walks past? Does looking at others’ bodies constantly occupy your mind when you’re in public? Or am I just so starved that it’s broken my brain? Is this internal obsession with girls’ bodies just what it’s like to be a straight guy… or am I different??
A look or two is normal. Looking at sexy people scratches the feelgood brain bits. Changing your path to gawk is getting a bit sketchy. You should probably masturbate a bit more often, or better yet, find someone to share orgasms with. You’re craving it.
I have similar issues, though maybe not quite as intense as yours. I also have ADHD, and my eyes “wander” more when I am unmedicated. I think it’s kind of like being drawn to shiny things, but there’s also an element of objectification to it, which is the part that makes me uncomfortable.
I think checking people out is OK and human, but if you’re going out of your way to walk places where there will be more people available to look at, maybe you need to reflect on what you’re really after. Are you single? Lonely?
There are lots of interesting things to focus on that are not women’s bodies existing out in public. If you’re finding it hard to focus on anything but butts, might be worth talking to a therapist about. Idk, just my $0.02.
It’s normal & I don’t care, only care about behavior - I expect straight guys are looking at women, aware of attractive women, notice nice figures, men are very visual in general, nothing bad about it. And I expect gay guys are constantly checking out men as well.
Bad is remarking on it all the time, touching, staring really hard when the lady looks uncomfortable about the staring, looking at boobs when someone is talking to you - you already know all this! Just noticing, you aren’t going to be able to turn that off and ought not if you could.
Me, I notice looks but not often turned on by anyone’s look. And I notice guys looking and do not care, don’t think it means anything.
I think its very normal. I remember when I was young, specially in my teenage years, I was incredibly attracted to all girls too.
People have different strength sex drives. Some people hardly even feel theirs, and others are completely dominated by it. Age plays a role too.
I’m gay and I simply don’t have this sort of compulsion with men, not even ones that are incredibly attractive. Tho I also do consider myself kinda soeta grey asexual, ish, a bit.
I also have an outrageously strong foot fetish for which I’m pretty bi/pan, and I can relate to some of what you’ve described a little bit more in that regard (tho not specific to one gender, nice feet are nice feet on whoever!). But even then I don’t allow myself to stare to the detriment of whatever I’m doing and I especially don’t allow myself to go out of my way to keep looking or trying to get a better viewing angle. I will certainly enjoy whatever views of them happen genuinely naturally through circumstances and I don’t feel bad about feeling aroused when I do, but it simply is not an option to me to do anything more, because I don’t know that person and I simply don’t have their consent to take it farther than that.
I suggest therapy if you can access it. AASECT certified therapist maybe a good choice to help you separate healthy attractions and fantasies from things that clearly cross lines and make other people feel unsafe or uncomfortable.
We are all the descendants of men who did that and more. If they hadn’t, none of us would be here.
Of course… that’s no excuse to let your instincts infringe upon others. Never let your urges make someone feel unsafe.
But don’t feel bad about a trait that most humans inherited and had no say in.
not all men. and no, this behaviour isnt necessary to propogate. stop using brolology to explain away mental psychosis. this is why so many men do not seek out counselling when they should and end up blaming others for the feelings they have. this is how incels think.
So you think OP should blame himself for something he didn’t control, got it, very healthy outlook you’ve got there
Much of this is normal for guys from my own and other guys experiences. Heck my wife is the kind to point out other chicks. What Im not sure if any girl is going to but I can say that like if a girl has a low cut top it becomes really annoying talking with them. I have to like lock onto their forehead or such because if it comes into visual ranges its almost impossible not to look at it without an act of will. Ill tell ya to im like an old guy. old enough anyway. So the hormones or whatnot do not go away. I mean honestly most sitcoms make fun of the horny guy thing all the time. That does not come from no where. SNL actually had this skit where it was supposed to be a new syle of mens pants where there was a window to show like the area around where the cock and balls meet without showing all of any of it and then the guys where telling the girls. hey my eyes are up here.
assume you are doing a " feral gaze" some people might catch you doing that, and get creeped out and will snatch you dirty looks, i advise dont do that. its the staring and potential low-key following that is a little creepy. if you stare more than a few seconds , or start following them as you said its lowkey you need to avoid doing that. because now you might be seen as a suspicious person to avoid. intentionally passing by them or following is a little to strong beyond just gazing.
just going to offer an alternative perspective here. im a trans woman and lean towards being a lesbian. i found myself similarly obsessed with women to various degrees throughout my life pre transition. part of it was certainly hormonal, just being really horny and lonely, but another part was the dysphoria and intense gender envy i would get seeing attractive women just existing. i wanted to be them so badly, but i didn’t realize it because it went along with my sexual desire so often. things got better when i was in a relationship but it never really stopped. nothing i did seemed to resolve those feelings.
a couple years ago i realized im trans and a bit after started hormonal transition. the sexual obsession stopped pretty much immediately and i felt much better about my attraction to women. it feels much healthier and less insistent now. part of that was the temporary drop in my libido, but girl horny feels so different and just better to me.
i see a lot of myself in how you describe your feelings, so i figured id mention the possibility that you could be trans too. no one can tell you whether you are or not but you, so it might be worth exploring, just to see.
I don’t think it’s the case of OP possibly being trans but I don’t want to dismiss your tale nor discourage the OP from considering this possibility. It’s possible that it could be gender dysphoria.
I’m glad you found peace with your transition.
When you look around at women I think the major difference between creepy vs not creepy is whether you’re furtively and ineffectively trying to hide it vs smiling and being open. If a woman notices you looking, to smile and maybe give a little nod before looking away is friendly. Fearfully glancing away and then sneakily looking back is creepy. And if she acknowledges your smile and nod with a smile and nod of her own, it might indicate a bit of interest. Or not. But you have to let go of the idea that you’re peeping out through the window blinds afraid of the world, and since this is bothering you so much I would strongly suggest looking into a little therapy.
You know that phenomena where you buy a yellow car, and then you suddenly see yellow cars everywhere?
Brains are really suggestible.
You don’t need to be ashamed, if your brain has gotten into a habit you don’t appreciate, or is negatively affecting your life, it’s something you can work on.
Gals are pretty, I’m not attracted to them, myself, but I absolutely get it.
What you want is to feel like you’re in control of enjoying looking, and not that it’s a compulsion, like it’s driving you. That’s gotta be almost taking all the pleasure out of it for you. I could imagine that would be hugely annoying.
Just start by noticing other things, go out specifically to see something, birds, trees, bugs, water, boats, whatever you find interesting, and start retraining your brain towards something else, if you try “not” to look at something, it’s still the main focus, if you try not to look at girls, the focus is still girls, it’s easier to help your brain notice other things. Count how many of something you see. Just let your brain notice girls as you go, notice what it’s telling you and then move back to what you were looking at redirecting towards.
You don’t have to do what your brain tells you to do, you aren’t your “thinking brain”, you are the entity that observes your thoughts, you might be inadvertently feeding those thoughts into a bigger thing than you want them to be, by actioning on them. I would suggest, try not walking or actioning them. That feeds that wolf, which is perfectly normal and fine, but hes just gotten a little too much for the space you want him to occupy.
This is all ok, its a perfectly normal, developmental stage. It will calm down on its own, too, don’t stress.
A lot of this is normal, and yes there are some aspects of your behaviour that I’d find a bit concerning but it’s been mentioned a lot in this thread. And I think that we’ve done so much to vilify men and male sexual desire as a society that it’s giving the manosphere a voice they would otherwise have not existed decades ago.
Society is genuinely at the point where we’ll creep shame any guy who even so much as glances at a well-endowed lady’s boobs or arse in a tank top or yoga pants.
We need to take a long and hard look at our society and ask how we’ve managed to make people like Andrew Tate, Steven Crowder and Charlie Kirk household names.
The amount of people calling similar takes to mine incel ideology is shocking, and I think this immediate attack is why we have a male loneliness epidemic and why I worry for what the future brings.
I don’t fantasize about people sexually (most of the time) but I look at everyones asses. It’s just where my eyes naturally rest when I’m walking around
Married 23 years. Not interested in other women but I find women generally to be beautiful. It’s like looking at art to me. Every painting has It’s own beauty. It’s just nice to look and appreciate then move on with my day.
It’s called hypersexuality and is a symptom of many different things.







