Inside the ‘arms race’ between YouTube and ad blockers / Against all odds, open source hackers keep outfoxing one of the wealthiest companies.::YouTube’s dramatic content gatekeeping decisions of late have a long history behind them, and there’s an equally long history of these defenses being bypassed.

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    1 year ago

    That’s a big if though. Unless an actual creator-exodus happens, it’s not going to happen.

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      1 year ago

      It will happen eventually. These kinds of adversarial arrangements between parties are inherently unstable. The enshittification cycle only ends when a site properly collapses. If you think they couldn’t get shittier, give it time. They’ll find a way.

      All we need is for a good alternative to become more viable and for the site to have a few more exodus events and it’ll lose its critical mass. Ultimately I think most platforms are going to have to become federated, it’s the only way to avoid enshittification and still grow the network. Growing the network is important because it is the size of youtube and other centralised sites’ networks that gives them their stability and utility. It’s the network effect.

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        All we need is for a good alternative to become more viable

        This is where the biggest challenge lies. Doing what YouTube does is not easy. I don’t think anyone could do it all. So it would have to be picking a choosing. Can anyone upload hours/days/years worth of video content? Are the people who put up those videos able to get paid without having to create their own relationships with advertisers or asking for viewer donations? How are copyright violations handled? Or more sinister video content?

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          Peertube is a federated system that already handles video.

          Moderation is handled by instances with more personal mods.

          Bandwidth is handled via multiple instances & p2p protocols so viewers help distribute the load.

          I think you’re overstating how difficult youtube’s job is. A lot of that work is problems youtube creates for thsmselves by trying to squeeze their platform for more money. A federated platform doesn’t have that issue.

    • [email protected]@sh.itjust.works
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      I don’t disagree with you, I’m just saying that YouTube is nothing without both its creator and viewers.
      A viewer-exodus and a creator-exodus would be tied together, they both feedback into each other.

      I even get why YouTube doubledown on catering to their advertisers over the creators and viewers, that’s just money talking.
      I’m just saying I don’t owe them my time or attention.
      They would hardly be the first Internet giant to fall, thinking they’re too big to fail, not that I see it happening soon though.