cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/world/p/1177103/idf-soldier-shot-and-killed-a-seven-month-old-baby-in-hebron-the-bullet-passed-through-h
Sam Abu Haikel was killed last night after being shot by a soldier in the Tel Rumeida neighborhood of Hebron. His parents, who were with him in the car on their way to his grandmother’s house, were also injured by the infiltration of the bullets. IDF Spokesperson Confiscated the Things But Hurried to Cover and Protect Soldiers
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The state of Israel, famously the Middle East’s only democracy but somehow Israelis are innocent bystanders to their country’s actions. Much like the yanks in that sense.
By erasing Israel you mean abolishing the state rather than expulsing Israelis right?
Return at displaced Palestinians first, then cry about expelling Israelis who displaced them. Most of them have a second passport, unlike the stateless Palestinians.
It isn’t all Israelis. There are plenty who spend every day protesting what is going on and trying to end it.
A very small small minorities. The majority keep voting for genocidal prime ministers
Answering a genocide with a genocide is really not it though.
We can dismantle their Israeli state simply by completely blockading the country, forbidding travel of its citizens, and freezing their assets globally. The region cant sustain itself without imports. Israel could be completely dismantled if the global elite wanted it to be, without a single shot fired by us. We know what to do, we just have leaders too compromised and corrupt to do it. After they capitulate they can be subjected to a justice process which focusses on restoring the Palestinians what has been taken from them by political zionism, insomuch as thats possible. The Israelis have little to no standing in that process beyond basic human rights. Thieves and murderers dont get to keep whats been taken, and removing ethnic cleansers from the lands they stole is not in itself ethnic cleansing. Its restorative justice. Theres a reason that ethnic cleansing was made a war crime by the UN.
I did not talk about genociding Israelis though. I expressed the idea that a big number of israelis oppose genocide and colonialism .
You qualified and minimized the statement of the person you were responding to, and they were responding to someone espousing genocide.
The person you were responding to expressed the idea that a big number of Israelis oppose genocide and colonialism - in response to the suggestion of genocide.
You seem to have assigned yourself the role of making sure to clarify that it’s actually a very small number of people who maybe should not be genocided, so it walks and talks like a duck at this point my friend.
I did not minimize anything while you guys are simply distorting reality. Only a minority oppose genocide and colonialism in Israel. I do not support genociding Israelis. I firmly believe with deradicalization israelis can live peacefully with Palestinians . The israeli who is likely to win against Netanyahu is another Netanyahu like grnocider.
Why should Israelis be entitled to live there at all when justice can be restored by giving Palestinian families their lands back and compensating them for 80 years of murder and theft. Every minute we delay makes that more impossible.
How are you going to send back millions of Israelis to Europe back? What about the jews and their direct ancestors living in Palestine before the Zionist movement? Are you going to make a DNA test for every Israeli to confirm that? Palestinians Families who was expulsed during the nekba ethenic cleansing should definitely going back to their land and compensation should aslo be given to them. It do not require mass displacing Israelis to Europe
I’m truly not disputing your point, and I don’t assume that you support genocide as a matter of belief.
But the top level comment started with the assertion that we ‘need to erase israhell off the planet’ which is a genocide. Your point was deployed in response to someone saying, in so many words, ‘maybe we shouldn’t do a genocide because not all people of a nationality believe the same thing’.
Then you come in with, in so many words, ‘yeah, but most of them do’ - as a further reason to…not do a genocide?
What point is your comment serving other than to soften the reason not to do a genocide?
Israel is a state. Wiping it off the map does not assume genocide. Your pushing that narrative is a zionist talking point. Israel CAN be wiped off the map without murder. Will you admit to that?
My point was concentrated on a specific part of your comment related to the number of Israelis who oppose genocide and colonialism. Distorting reality by claiming a big number of Israelis oppose it is dangerous and help Israel continuing the extermination of Palestinians . Jerusalem Day Flag March where Israelis chant death to Arab and burn Arab villages has ten thousands of people in them while counter protests have few hundreds.
Didn’t they recently get angry because benjamin wasnt killing enough muslims?
Pretty sure it is most of them. They even freed people for rape.
When its 82% who flatly admit it openly, then I’m not going to get twisted into a pretzel on the tiny percentage of people who didnt answer in the vehement affirmative from their perch on a pile of bones. I wish those less than 18% of people the best and demand that they leave that territory for their own safety and security. And in their answers to that demand you will see the measure of their complicity. Most of that less than 18% want this outcome, they just dont want to be accused of making it happen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQbPCvV8W8&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1HQg%3D%3D
The youtube link is Abby Martins video talking about the murderous feedback she got when she visited Israel and asked locals what they thought.