• stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com
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    4 months ago

    The catch-22 is that it’s impossible to make this tool freely available as-is without also enabling the child abuse. You can’t pry the apart, or at the very least nobody has managed to yet.

    So do we accept the abuse and let it proliferate, in the name of privacy? Or do we sacrifice privacy to make sure theres not a safe place for abusers?

    There is no answer where no one gets hurt. It sucks when the interests of good align with the interests of bad, and it’s a shit show one way or the other.

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      4 months ago

      The Catholic Church abuses kids, so… ban that. Ban adults alone in a room with a child—something could happen. Oh, sometimes they get abuse at school… so, that’s gotta go. Oh no, they get abused on the internet… bye bye internet.

      You can’t say “this could be used to abuse a child” because you could abuse a child with a spoon, but I’ll be damned if I’ll eat soup with a fork.

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        The Catholic Church should absolutely face dire consequences for the abuse they perpetuate and defend. Loss of tax status, prison for all abusers and those who assisted them in avoiding jail. You are making a great parallel.

        It’s not that it “could be” used to abuse a child, wtf. It’s that is has already been widely adopted. It’s currently happening. Same as the Catholic Church.

        You’re really trying hard to make this about “possible” crimes while ignoring the material ones.

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          No I’m not. Stopping private conversations will only hurt people. Kids will continue to be abused regardless. They were before Telegram, they will be after. Any “protect the children” by removing rights is never about the children.

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      4 months ago

      The catch-22 is that it’s impossible to make this tool freely available as-is without also enabling the child abuse.

      The catch-22 is that it’s impossible to make roads freely available as-is without also enabling road rage.

      The lack of implanted radio telemetry devices in our dicks “enables” rape.

      Basically, fuck off with that idiotic horseshit.

      • stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com
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        But roads are heavily regulated and monitored. In fact, they’re directly managed by the government. If I experience road rage I can call the police with the license plate number and there’s databases of drivers with pictures and VINs etc. This is not the point you think you were making.

        the lack of implanted radio telemetry …

        Absolutely wild that you’re accusing others of idiotic horseshit