Mfer literally quoted Orban. Bruuuuh
It’s really astounding that Donald will lie his ass off about almost anything but can’t muster the will to lie about protecting Ukraine. No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.
That’s the one thing he CAN’T lie about. Putin has him on a very short leash, and he would catch hell for even implying that Ukraine should be defended.
For Putin, it’s not about getting Trump in office, it’s about PR, and saying you’ll defend Ukraine is not good PR.
That’s exactly what he means by “ending the war” and it “never happening in the first place”
protecting Ukraine
So, turning Ukraine into a mass prison that people are desperatly trying to escape, where people are kidnapped on the streets and sent to die on the frontlines? Can they somehow opt-out of this protection? Yeah, didn’t think so, obviously you know what’s better for other people.
No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.
Obviously it wouldn’t happen, just the current front lines would become the new borders.
But even your bogeyman “hand over Ukraine to Russia” is still orders of magnitudes better for Ukrainians than the current situation.
I’m sure he’ll be happy with the Sudetenland!
Nah probably not, but he’ll be stopped at Kursk just like the last time :)
Man I wish your hometown would get conquered by a hostile force.
Well, as a Ukrainian, I also hope so, but unironically.
Because if my hometown will get conquered by “hostile force” people will finally be able to leave, and I will be able to visit it and leave it afterwards.
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Switched over to Fox to see how they were going to spin it.
Hannity was like: “The moderators are lefties. It was 3-1 .”
Then he brought on Rubio, and I clicked away.
Only losers blame the ref.
I didn’t bother.
I already know how it’s going to go no matter who wins. Everyone gets poorer except the wealthy.
Being ignorant doesn’t rlly help, I feel more hopeful after watching the debate tbh.
Well, respectfully, some of us have bills, and there’s nothing worse for my hope in either of these candidates than my grocery, electrical, and medical bills.
Your grocery and medical bills were talked about.
That’s all they ever do.
Say things.
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Totally, man.
It’s entirely my fault.
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Saw most of it. Actually surprised that fat orange held himself together for so long. Hes still not worth the trouble though
He was coherent but clearly uncomfortable, usually he’s pretty confident.
Moderators keep letting trump interrupt & talk over them. Bro just grow some balls & tell him to shut up & mute his shit
Thinking that same thing. For once just enforce the rules on this man baby
The problem is that they would hone in on that and make the debate about that rather than Kamala. They took the L for her Win. It’s shitty. But what they had to do to make her the focal point. He absolutely is gaslighting them to make it about what he wants.
Who is “they” in this context? If you’re talking about trumpers, they’re a lost cause, man. They’re always going to have some alternate version of reality. The only way we’re going to move forward as a country is if we stop worrying about what they’re going to say or do. We cannot let the tyranny of the minority hold this country hostage.
speakers took the L for Kamala I think is what he means
This has been a complaint across a dozen debates for 8 years now.
That was Harris’s request, I thought. In the original terms for the Trump/Biden debate, each person’s mic was shut off except when it was their turn to speak. Harris asked for that to be changed to allow interruptions, and Trump went along with it. If that’s not working out for Harris, she should probably talk to her own team that wanted it, instead of whining about the moderators.
It worked out just fine for her. Gave him a chance to dig his own grave, which is what he did and what she wanted.
Weird 34 was just showing off his misogyny. It’s disrespectful to talk over women and take up their time. The debate proves Harris’s point that Sleepy DonOLD cares only about himself and goes to great lengths to tell more and more lies.
This is not a new development, dude. Do we really need to rehash the lessons of the last 8 years again? The people who vote for him don’t care about your sensibilities. They like that he’s rude and think it shows strength.
You may have missed the point of the debate, which is to help people on the fence choose a side. Anyone on the fence HAS been asleep the last 8 years and ought to not choose to side with Cult 34 and their rude, misguided values. I expect many a boomer MAGAt has a wet dream of the rapist groping her on stage.
What’s up with the 34?
DonOLD was convicted of 34 felony counts in New York. He hopes people don’t keep his factual criminality on the top of their minds. The purpose and motive of the crime was to deceive voters. It’s election fraud.
Weird 34 was just showing off his misogyny.
What did Eisenhower have to do with it?
Weird 34 was just showing off his misogyny
That’s literally his strongest selling point, his voters support him because he normalizes misogyny.
If he ran over and slapped her to the floor they’d consider it a show of American Strength.
The mic being active or not doesn’t affect her hearing. If he interrupts her she’d still hear it, only the TV audience wouldn’t, so she’d seem flustered.
That’s a really great point.
I have been disappointed by that as well but this has been astoundingly good as far as debates have gone. The immediate fact checking is long overdue. And frankly I look forward to pointing at Trump’s extra speaking time as a bulwark against the “iT wAs BiAsEd By ThE lIbErAL mOdErAtOrS” complaints.
I’ve been genuinely impressed by their real-time fact checking. They’re swatting away every wild thing he says calmly and with specific examples of the truth. These moderators are incredibly well-prepared.
Hopefully that’s the standard from now on. Unless Donny finally kicks the bucket we’re probably gonna be seeing more of him even if he loses in November
There’s no way the GOP will give him another chance after losing twice, especially with all the other baggage
Hahahahah. He is the gop now. Would be fun watching him shred the party to pieces from a jail cell. Not to celebrate to early or anything.
As much as I want to agree I still don’t think it’s likely he’ll ever see the inside of a cell. Not when the highest court in the land is almost entirely made up of his servants
Well there’s no way they didn’t know what to expect!
They’re afraid to be called unfair after he said that they’d be unfair. It’s one of the strategies that us uses to suppress fighting back against his lies and ineptitude.
First, your preemptively accuse someone of something. Second you do awful things that would normally rightfully get a response, but the authorities have to be careful otherwise you’ll accuse them of doing the thing they should be doing. Third, you get your way even though you broke the rules, or you get to yell about how you knew, just knew! That you’d be treated badly.
Fuck it man, just be unfair. He’s going to say you were anyways, go scorched earth on the motherfucker.
90% of the time Kamala finished her point perfectly before the mods started to interrupt. Respec
Trump…was his disgusting self
And the best part was that when they did interrupt her, she finished her sentence, then stopped talking
(Except for one time where it really looked like trump was gonna set her off but she still held up)
I think it’s safe to say this is without a doubt the best performance we’ve seen from a candidate against Trump, which imo really speaks to her ability to keep her composure under pressure, which isn’t easy, especially when everybody expects you to be absolutely flawless.
It was such a huge stage tonight and she was beyond solid. Like you said, the best democratic performance since… can’t remember. maybe you didn’t say now that I think about it. She came off so reasonable and nailed all the points that should do damage to a turd like Trump.(i’m fine with name calling)
That’s cool, but I did like it when Biden told trump to shut up.
If kamala had called trump a little bitch when talking about how he’s still recovering being fired I would have lost it.
“This…” (long pause to make sure she doesn’t say something stupid) “…former president”
She didn’t need to say it. The long pause said everything it needed to.
Also, going over to shake his hand was such an alpha move and she knew it. Trump was pretty much rattled from that point onwards.
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“trash says I smell nice!”
Hahaha
I can’t watch the orange man without getting very angry about the shit he spews, so I couldn’t watch it for very long. I understand he got trounced.
No. And i am tired that lemmy is 90% posts about the US while they are less then 30℅ of the user.
This post has 199 upvotes and 18 downvotes, or 91.7% and 8.3% respectively. In other words, people want to see that kind of content, so that seems fair to me. I don’t expect lemmy to care about my local elections, I go to local websites for that. International social media naturally care about things that will affect most of their users.
It’s the Internet during US elections.
Even outside the elections, it is far too US-centric. I mean, it is lemmy.world after all.
I’m sorry if I sound more pissed off than I actually am, but it is indeed quite a bit annoying.
Unfortunately, the fate of the world kinda rests on the outcome of this election. From Ukraine and Israel at a minimum, to severe climate change and WW3 at the extreme end. I hate it too, but this is just too big to ignore.
I wonder if there can be more than one important issue effecting our future at a time…
Pick any issue and both Trump and Kamala are on the wrong side of it.
A 20% tariff on imported goods?
More tax breaks for the rich?
Come on man. Harris is against those.
So being for a tax break for the rich is wrong. And being against a tax break for the rich is wrong? What other option even is there?
So post non-US centric content.
Lol take a look at the world my friend.
Yes and the us runs a good chunk of it
You and me both, but I think it’s up to us to publish content that’s not us-centric.
Exactly, it’s an open platform everyone can participate
Sorry but I live in the US. You are allowed to post too my friend.
I watched it, and I usually skip debates because the summaries are more meaningful (it’s usually just used for fluffy sound bites). This one just felt… Different? She baited the fuck out of him. There will be so many memes.
And yeah the moment he said the great Orban I fucking lost it, more at than the dog eating migrants and the post birth abortions. Like, Harris can’t necessarily call that “ally” an asshole fascist but like, those of us in the know, know.
Harris: “You shouldn’t have to fly to another state just to get the medical attention you need.”
MAGA nutheads: “SHE HATES FLYING WITH POOR PEOPLE”
Holy shit, the brain gymnastics some people do on the net is astonishing.
i was working so, no.
Probably for the best
Forcing myself to watch this thing. I think I’m getting a rash.
I’ve been doing the game where I shoot every time he gets the mic when he shouldn’t.
Probably gonna need emergency services soon
Like your username. Though we probably have a different definition of subspace lmao
I was but had to turn it off after President Treason lied about people getting hurt on Jan 6
I didn’t bother.
I already know how it’s going to go no matter who wins. Everyone gets poorer except the wealthy.
