This is clearly invasion of privacy. Just think about it. If insurance companies start collection you car data like at what speed you drive etc. They can cancel policy if we violate traffic laws. If they collect healthcare data they can cancel policy for abortion or drinking etc
If they get access to our DNA they could even know if there’s a history of illness in your family and use that to increase your rates. It’s just one of the reasons why volunteering that data away freely to companies like 23andme is a terrible idea.
They do collect that on an opt in basis with the promise of additional discounts if you’re a good driver. Some give you a device you plug into your OBDII port, others get the telemetry directly from your car. I drive a Hyundai and I have the option of toggling on sharing anonymized driving data as well as a toggle to share your actual data with insurance companies for special offers.
All cars now have “black boxes” that track the telemetry of the vehicle. It is no longer optional. In the event of an accident, this data is used to help determine cause.
NHTSA estimates that approximately 96 percent of model year 2013 passenger cars and light-duty vehicles were already equipped with EDR capability. The significance of this measure is in the specifics of what data it requires such devices to collect and its guidelines for how the data should be accessed. - Black Box 101: Understanding Event Data Recorders
I will debate part of what the previous poster said, in that EDRs are technically optional, as there doesn’t seem to be any US law that requires them.
But automakers benefit from the data they provide, so I’d expect just about every new car contains one.
We know for a fact Tesla, for example, uses Video Event Data Recorders, and they have near total access to any footage recorded by the vehicle at any time. That’s one small reason I’d never buy one.
This is clearly invasion of privacy. Just think about it. If insurance companies start collection you car data like at what speed you drive etc. They can cancel policy if we violate traffic laws. If they collect healthcare data they can cancel policy for abortion or drinking etc
If they get access to our DNA they could even know if there’s a history of illness in your family and use that to increase your rates. It’s just one of the reasons why volunteering that data away freely to companies like 23andme is a terrible idea.
They do collect that on an opt in basis with the promise of additional discounts if you’re a good driver. Some give you a device you plug into your OBDII port, others get the telemetry directly from your car. I drive a Hyundai and I have the option of toggling on sharing anonymized driving data as well as a toggle to share your actual data with insurance companies for special offers.
All cars now have “black boxes” that track the telemetry of the vehicle. It is no longer optional. In the event of an accident, this data is used to help determine cause.
lmao The ECU just tracks data about the engine and various systems on the car. It isn’t fireproof or waterproof.
I know for sure there’s no “black box” on my car.
Where are you getting this info from?
Event Data Recorder - Supported Vehicle List
I will debate part of what the previous poster said, in that EDRs are technically optional, as there doesn’t seem to be any US law that requires them.
But automakers benefit from the data they provide, so I’d expect just about every new car contains one.
We know for a fact Tesla, for example, uses Video Event Data Recorders, and they have near total access to any footage recorded by the vehicle at any time. That’s one small reason I’d never buy one.
Many insurance companies already do this. I know mine does.