“We are all culpable,” Matt Nelson said before lighting himself on fire. This is the third such incident in a year.

“We are all culpable,” Matt Nelson said before lighting himself on fire. This is the third such incident in a year.

  • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
    187·
    2 个月前

    Self-immolation as a form of protest has millennia of history behind it, especially in Buddhism and Hinduism. Ancient Greeks have records of it. The Indus Valley have records of it. Ancient Chinese have records of it. Tibetan monks set themselves on fire in order to protest for an independent Tibet. Norman Morris set himself on fire at the Pentagon to protest the Vietnam War.

    Please don’t reduce an active form of protest against someone’s oppression as someone simply “killing themselves” and “shouldn’t be celebrated”. It’s a pretty narrow and callous world view that may reflect your experience, but not of wider human history.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
      418·
      2 个月前

      I mean, taking the conquered as slaves also has a lot of history behind it. So does ritualistic sacrifice to get your way (hmmm).

      But hey, that is a good enough reason. So please let me know who I should cheer for and call a hero for making the world a better place by killing themselves. Just like I need to know who should be property of others and who shouldn’t

      Or maybe, just maybe, we can realize that it is massively fucked up to celebrate suicide just because it might be politically advantageous even though, time and time again, it isn’t even that?

      • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
        102·
        2 个月前

        Yeah, this is a pretty westernized and infantilizing view. Way to take someone’s autonomy and compare it to -checks notes- slavery and involuntary human sacrifice.

        Please read some eastern philosophy and history before making comments like this. Suicide isn’t stigmatized outside of Abrahamic viewpoints.

        • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
          311·
          2 个月前

          I genuinely don’t care if someone’s holy book or ancient traditions say killing yourself is fine.

          I very much do care about the family and friends that are left behind to process the deaths of loved ones. As well as the lives that are cut short because someone decided the world would be a better place with them dead.

          • Aqarius@lemmy.world
            72·
            2 个月前

            I… get the feeling you’re not trying to have a conversation about the particular incident in the OP article. Which is fine, and good, but don’t overproject.