• hdnsmbt@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    I think a lot of the guilt you’re feeling is your own and not created by these alleged vegans. I know a lot of vegans and also vegetarians and they’re almost apologetic about their dietary choices. Of course, both your and my experiences are anecdotal but I find it hard to believe a vegan actually actively tried to guilt you into anything. Which isn’t to say their mere presence causes you to feel guilty about your eating habits.

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      Nope. I saw it all the time on reddit and I’ve already seen it on lemmy. The guilt is definitely, 100% not my own. That doesn’t even make sense.

      And no, their mere presence doesn’t bother me at all. I understand why vegans feel the way they do, but it doesn’t change the way I personally feel about eating meat. And I definitely don’t continue to eat meat to spite vegans either. It’s just something that isn’t a big deal to me - and saying such a thing will definitely offend some vegans.

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        I’ve been on reddit for more than a decade and that’s not my experience. Maybe you’re particularly sensitive in regards to dietary choices and the opinions surrounding them? Or maybe those posts you’re referring to are not actually meant to guilt-trip you?

        Saying you don’t care about something others care a great deal about obviously is going to offend those people (see also: Religion). Being offended isn’t the same as guilt-tripping, though, and it’s a far cry from being “as obnoxious as people shouting that abortions are evil” or “being a cunt”. These comparisons alone suggest it’s a little bit of a deal to you. That, of course, is just my interpretation reading two of your comments and is in no way meant to be a judgment of your character or person, I’m just trying to convey what comes across on my end.

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          Nope, definitely not sensitive to dietary choices. Just like people have the right to do what they want with their bodies, people have the right to eat what they want witbout judgement as well.

          It’s funny you mention religion though because I have definitely seen quite a few connections between veganism and religion: stemming from beliefs, preaching, attempting to convert, etc. And yes, I used abortion as an example because it’s a solid link between the two.

          I’m not sure what you’re trying to say or do really. You’ve made a fair amount of assumptions about me (not judgementally though) and I don’t really see the point? All I’ve said is that pretty much every vegan I’ve come across has been preachy and attempts to guilt trip. If you’re trying to prove me wrong, you’re not doing a great job at it.

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            The fact that you’re seeing “a solid link between” veganism and anti-abortionists makes me not want to continue the discussion, sorry.

            I believe my point was rather clear, though. You claimed that “literally every vegan” you met online is “extremely preachy”. I do not believe that and told you about my experience on which I’m basing my objection. This is generally known as a discussion and its point is to share opinions and generally interact with other people. The fact that you’re interpreting this as an attack shows that this is a very emotional subject for you. Another reason, I don’t think this discussion is worth continuing.

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              It really sucks that you keep making assumptions about me even after I pointed it out. And I’m not sure how I lead on that I was interpreting this discussion as an attack, I just wasn’t sure what the point was. I don’t know how what I said is hard to believe at all. You can google “why are vegans so preachy” and find a multitude of posts with the same opinion as me. It’s really not that far fetched.

              I do believe there is a solid link between veganism and anti-abortionists, and many others have pointed that out as well. I’m sure you’d find discussions about that too in the above google search.

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                I do believe you don’t think this is an emotional subject for you, I really do.

                But then I read your comments and get a different impression. This is not making assumptions, it is looking at facts and calling them out. Maybe you could take a step back and honestly think about the emotions you experience while you’re writing these comments. Or stay mad about people giving you feedback on the way you behave. Whatever tickles your fancy.

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            Yeah! Everyone has the right to eat whatever they want! I love eating carnists and nobody has the right to guilt trip me for it

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        *writes blog post stating its not people who identify as meat eaters who are the fundamentalists

        Post content: “You’re fucking lying!! Vegans are 100% the problem. Theyre fucking guilting me, no better than an anti abortionist piece of shit cunt fucking see it ALL THE TIME!!!”

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          I never said vegans were a problem, nice job putting words in my mouth. I’m really glad to see vegan supporters literally attempting to erase vegan guilt tripping that happens so often that I’ve seen it multiple times, and I’m not the only one to complain about it. Google “why are vegans so preachy” and you’ll get a decent amount of posts complaining about it. It’s not some strange phenomenon like you’re making it out to be.