Who’s winning POTUS? Will it be called on election night or drawn out? Congress? Etc

  • piyuv@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    My rational side wants to see Harris win, but the anarchist in me wants to see Trump win, just to see what would happen. Not living in the US, obviously.

    Trump winning could be a disaster for the whole world since US is such a major player in basically everything, but my anarchist side does not listen.

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      2 days ago

      Anarchism is not chaos, which is what it seems like you think it means. Anarchism is the opposition to hierarchy and is thus directly opposed to fascism and therefore Trump. No anarchist wants to see Trump win because it means fascism has won.

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        22 hours ago

        Yep. Too many people think anarchy is throwing bricks at windows. It just means opposing hierarchy. Hoping a fascist wins is the literal opposite of that

        • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          2 days ago

          On the other hand, a severe degradation of federal institutions would by necessity promote community-based cooperation. Like in any other disaster, natural or otherwise.

          Nobody wants to see it happen this way, but it might be the catalyst we get.

      • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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        Same story we saw in 2016, Trump has no policy other than destroying American institutions and the status quo, so people get this sort of collapse fetish and pick him for that reason alone.

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      3 days ago

      Would U.S.A. foreign policy be drastically affected by who becomes the president?
      As a non-American, I think it’d have more impact on the people of the U.S.A and maybe immediate neighbours like Mexico.

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        3 days ago

        I don’t know, to quote someone I read here: “The world shits when the US farts”

        US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)

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          3 days ago

          US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)

          That maybe a consequence but US foreign policy might improve or remain unchanged under Trump.

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            2 days ago

            foreign policy might improve under Trump

            Let’s see, Israel kills all Palestinians, Russia takes over Ukraine, then North Korea and China initiate actions against South Korea and Taiwan. You have an unusual definition of improve.

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              Israel will kill Palestinians no matter who comes to power in US. Maybe if Israel doesnt pay him personally anything he might reduce their supplies. If they pay him as they pay all the other politicians it will be business as usual.

              At least there would be a chance that spineless and derelict UN will fall.

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                  17 hours ago

                  I agree Biden now n Harris if she comes next won’t overtly support Israel like Trump. They will just send them arms n ammunition as usual while giving soundbites against them.

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            2 days ago

            Haha, u kidding?

            They will improve with authoritarians, where Trump can personally benefit from.

            For everyone else it will worsen and set global policies back by at least one decade.

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      2 days ago

      They’ll both be disasters for the USA.

      Trump will be a disaster because millions of Americans who are currently on the brink of poverty will sink into poverty under his policies, amplifying all kinds of social problems and civil unrest.

      Harris will be a disaster because she will escalate unpopular military conflicts, overextending the military, further lessening the prestige of the US, and encouraging countries to de-dollarize.

      The next four years are going to be rough. There’s no avoiding it.