Classic case of open minded, forward thinking from the mods here. Can’t take an open discussion about how to do what we all want if it even calls into question current methods. Where does that fall on some sort of political compass thing? Left-> authoritarian?
Before my comment got deleted, the response was “I’m not here to tell you how to accomplish anything.”
…why not? Do we not all want the same thing? If we do, discussing our tactics and a showing a little fuckin solidarity across borders are…kinda important dontcha think? But that does go to prove my original point, that this post isn’t about how to do what we all want, how to solve problems we all see. It’s about patting yourself on the back. We all need to be a little better.
You really come off as a massive fucking twat to all of us who are trapped in the US and have no where to go. Like we enjoy fascism. And voting to save ourselves is just a stupid waste of time. So we should just rot in place and accept it instead of casting a smelly vote for a democrat. Whats four more years of stability if my life doesn’t match your academic philosophy? Actually fuck you. Enjoy being Not American so you can crudely point and laugh. You’re a myopic piece of shit.
As if Trump would be good for Mexico either. Jesus Christ.
Either we’re doomed and voting for the Democrats does no harm, or it’s possible to pull ourselves out of this spiral and voting for the Democrats could buy us the time we need to do it. I can’t see the future, I don’t truly know which of us is right, and even if I’m right and it is possible that doesn’t necessarily mean we will succeed, but as long as there is even the tiniest shred of uncertainty then it is worth giving ourselves every possible chance. The most powerful military in the world falling fully to fascism will go global, and it will end with a death toll unlike anything the world has ever seen. I’d rather not let that happen, if I have a choice. I may not. It may be too late, but even if I wanted to run, where would I be safe from the US? There is no such place.
Please don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t believe the US is invincible or will beat the whole rest of the world or anything like that. In the end fascists always fail, because they’re not actually good at running countries.
Be real though. Just because the US isn’t invincible doesn’t mean the US military can’t choose to eradicate any one location on Earth and no one can stop them. All that air and naval power means nowhere is safe from a strike. And that’s before we start talking about giving a fully fascist government access to a cartoonishly oversized nuclear arsenal. When things go badly enough for them, there is a very real chance they hit the F you button and take everyone else down with them.
Also, let’s be real again, not everyone is going to be on the other side. The US has a lot of allies, and it’s not the only place where fascism is on the rise. The capacity for destruction is like nothing the world has ever seen, and I especially wouldn’t want to be in a place like Mexico, given the proximity and all the fascist propaganda about Mexicans.
The solution has always been violence. The American government doesn’t fear its people. We’ve been taught to clown on the French. The French riot over the smallest shit but hey, guess what, that’s a good thing. We’re all dumb, fat, cowardly pieces of shit. Most people I know don’t have the balls to share their salary or call out their boss’s boss in bullshit, much less take to the streets and make any actual personal sacrifice.
If the government knows its people actually call them out on their bullshit, it is incentivized to skip over the “revolution” part and just give the people what they want. But without education, the people aren’t a threat - to each other maybe, but not to the government.
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Classic case of open minded, forward thinking from the mods here. Can’t take an open discussion about how to do what we all want if it even calls into question current methods. Where does that fall on some sort of political compass thing? Left-> authoritarian?
Before my comment got deleted, the response was “I’m not here to tell you how to accomplish anything.”
…why not? Do we not all want the same thing? If we do, discussing our tactics and a showing a little fuckin solidarity across borders are…kinda important dontcha think? But that does go to prove my original point, that this post isn’t about how to do what we all want, how to solve problems we all see. It’s about patting yourself on the back. We all need to be a little better.
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You really come off as a massive fucking twat to all of us who are trapped in the US and have no where to go. Like we enjoy fascism. And voting to save ourselves is just a stupid waste of time. So we should just rot in place and accept it instead of casting a smelly vote for a democrat. Whats four more years of stability if my life doesn’t match your academic philosophy? Actually fuck you. Enjoy being Not American so you can crudely point and laugh. You’re a myopic piece of shit.
As if Trump would be good for Mexico either. Jesus Christ.
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Either we’re doomed and voting for the Democrats does no harm, or it’s possible to pull ourselves out of this spiral and voting for the Democrats could buy us the time we need to do it. I can’t see the future, I don’t truly know which of us is right, and even if I’m right and it is possible that doesn’t necessarily mean we will succeed, but as long as there is even the tiniest shred of uncertainty then it is worth giving ourselves every possible chance. The most powerful military in the world falling fully to fascism will go global, and it will end with a death toll unlike anything the world has ever seen. I’d rather not let that happen, if I have a choice. I may not. It may be too late, but even if I wanted to run, where would I be safe from the US? There is no such place.
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Please don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t believe the US is invincible or will beat the whole rest of the world or anything like that. In the end fascists always fail, because they’re not actually good at running countries.
Be real though. Just because the US isn’t invincible doesn’t mean the US military can’t choose to eradicate any one location on Earth and no one can stop them. All that air and naval power means nowhere is safe from a strike. And that’s before we start talking about giving a fully fascist government access to a cartoonishly oversized nuclear arsenal. When things go badly enough for them, there is a very real chance they hit the F you button and take everyone else down with them.
Also, let’s be real again, not everyone is going to be on the other side. The US has a lot of allies, and it’s not the only place where fascism is on the rise. The capacity for destruction is like nothing the world has ever seen, and I especially wouldn’t want to be in a place like Mexico, given the proximity and all the fascist propaganda about Mexicans.
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You’re the one advocating for doing nothing.
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Broken things can be fixed. You don’t always have to give up and throw it away.
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The solution has always been violence. The American government doesn’t fear its people. We’ve been taught to clown on the French. The French riot over the smallest shit but hey, guess what, that’s a good thing. We’re all dumb, fat, cowardly pieces of shit. Most people I know don’t have the balls to share their salary or call out their boss’s boss in bullshit, much less take to the streets and make any actual personal sacrifice.
If the government knows its people actually call them out on their bullshit, it is incentivized to skip over the “revolution” part and just give the people what they want. But without education, the people aren’t a threat - to each other maybe, but not to the government.
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