For Harris supporters who oppose 3rd parties: 2 questions.
(1) How will you get the US to stop funding Israeli genocide?;
and,
(2), what are the chances of your proposal(s) succeeding before, say, 2075?
For Harris supporters who oppose 3rd parties: 2 questions.
(1) How will you get the US to stop funding Israeli genocide?;
and,
(2), what are the chances of your proposal(s) succeeding before, say, 2075?
I don’t think I’ve ever met a person like you’re speaking of, who is going to vote for a Democratic candidate but opposes third parties. They never oppose the existence of third parties and they often support third party candidates.
They just don’t vote for third party candidates in US presidential elections because that vote doesn’t do anything productive.
I’m all ears on what a third-party candidate who gets less than 5% of the popular vote will be able to do to stop the genocide by 2075.
5% gain cumulative gain per election x 10 elections (say 2032 to 2072) = 50%
And how does a 5% gain per election happen? When in USA history has there been comparable rate increase and how did that party accomplish it?
What great progress has occurred in the US without activism regardless of who occupies the White House?
The closest I could come up with, at least for now, is the wp:1856 United States presidential election, where that loser, John Frémont, from the newly formed Republican party, presumably split the Whig vote and ushered in the victory of that impotent cuck, the Democrat James Buchanan.
And now move to the next election, 1860, in which the third party once again disappeared. No term-over-term progress made. I see no evidence any current minor parties are faring any better.
I’m not saying to stop activism. I’m saying voting a third party candidate for US president is minimally effective activism. Putting resources into getting people to vote for third party presidential candidate is an inefficient use of those resources. The general public can see this, and it adds to the perception that third parties are disorganized and unserious. (In addition to the system being built to keep them out)
Those resources should be spent on down ballot candidates and other initiatives to drag the Democratic party in the direction of cutting funds to Israel. We’re seeing this now. A group of Palestine were almost invited to the DNC. The DNC chickened out, but the fact that it was even better considered never would have happened ten years ago. We have a steadily increasing number of Democratic senators and representatives who vocally oppose the genocide in Gaza. The anti-genocide position correlates to politician’s generation, which is only going to improve further as Biden and Pelosi’s generation gets out and there are more of AOC’s generation and younger. Installing anti-genocidal local officials like sheriffs, judges, city councils, and university regents means peaceful protests wouldn’t be shut down as frequently.
My down ballot will not be a straight Democratic ticket. But I’m sure as hell not giving Trump even a miniscule edge by throwing my vote for US president away on RFK Jr. or Stein.