(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)
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Breathtakingly fucked. Wannabe dictator with a mandate from the dumbest mfers alive.
But take heart. The battle for the US is now a fight between the old guard Reaganite Republicans and the out&out Fascists. For the next 4 years at least the Dems are a complete non-factor. I hope the DNC is proud of their accomplishment.
All the worst possible things that could happen are now not just on the table but incredibly likely.
Some people are going to die-- mostly women. More people are going to have their lives turned upside-down, especially immigrants and ethnic and sexual minorities. Many immigrants, even legal ones, are going to be expelled. Corporations are going to run wild as regulation is abandoned. People are going to be bankrupted by predatory healthcare firms at a much higher rate than now. Every form of corporate pollution, adulteration, cheating and chicanery will be tolerated. The judiciary will be further corrupted. The US will not only withdraw from NATO, but will try to shut it down. Ukraine will be handed to Putin on a platter. Taiwan, the Baltics, Moldova and Poland will be left to fend for themselves. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza will transition even further to a full-scale genocide. Every aspect of government will be handed to corrupt, incompetent fanatics: kakistocracy all the way down. The impartiality of the civil service will be destroyed and the 19th-century spoils system reinstated. Social Security will be privatized and gutted. Obamacare will be eliminated. Congress will hold show trials of Trump’s perceived enemies. Terrorist acts and sabotage of critical infrastructure will massively increase, and the clampdowns that follow will be used to further degrade what few rights we still have.
But at least you won’t have Kamala’s pantsuit to complain about.
I was talking about your Russian statement. Lool
Realistically… what do you expect to be radically different this time in comparison to the four years Trump has already been president?
There are less adults/competent/people with any morals in the room now. Swap John Kelly and some of the slightly more upstanding members of his inner circle for RFK Jr and some of the worst of the worst
We never recovered from the first time
Project 2025. They exposed their plan and now thry will implement it, and nithing can stop them.
Project 2025. Complete control of all branches of government. A Supreme Court that says he can do whatever he wants. I’m sorry to be pessimistic, but we’re absolutely fucked.
I’m not as doomer as everyone else for the short term. It’s the long term I’m worried about. He might get 2 more scotus members, and he’s going to do everything in his power to undercut any attempt to tackle climate change. And that includes his scotus picks who will almost certainly declare any needed attention to address climate change as unconstitutional.
RIP Elana and Sonia
Trump doesn’t actually think he’d be president the first time and never planned for it. They’ve had since then to prepare this time.
They’re organized, have begun implementing the government takeover that they’ve worked towards since Reagan, and he’s officially been given immunity for anything he wants to do by the Supreme Court before entering office.
All of these plans have nothing to do with Trump, they’ve been being laid since Reagan and Nixon. Trump just stumbled on them, openly exposing them to the world because he’s such an extreme narcissist he MUST brag about anything he even thinks gives him power. We stopped it the first time, and had a chance to correct, but enough of the population has been drinking the Republican propaganda Kool-aid through Fix News since it’s inception. Fox News was started explicitly as a response to Nixon’s impeachment to provide an open partisan propaganda network for the Republican party. Nixon was going to be just fine until the media started educating the electorate, who demanded something be done. Congress was completely fine with Watergate until that point.
Since Nixon. He designed and started the plan that Reagan followed.
They’re organised this time
Control of the house, senate, presidency and Judiciary.
He had pretty much that his first two years. Maybe not the judicial branch, totally. But, he had both chambers of congress. They could have done a lot but didn’t because of incompetence, a little dissent and fear of electoral reprisals.
Now, they’re more organized and possibly more unified behind the rat-fucking that’s planned.
If they move too fast they’ll lose the House in two years. If they slow boil, we’ll all be cooked before we know it.
Last time, I don’t think Trump was expecting to win. He ended up needing to scrape together a cabinet, and a bunch of those officials were old-school Republicans who chafed at all the crazy stuff he wanted to do.
This time, the Heritage Foundation is preparing him, and the new Senate will rubber-stamp all his appointments. He will pick people who intend to “dismantle the administrative state”. Grover Norquist famously wanted to make Government so small he could drown it in fhe bathtub. He might get his wish.
100% his plan the first time was to lose, talk a lot of shit and complain. Sell a bunch of merchandise and try it again over and over, grifting millions from idiots.
You can see it immediately when he wins. Both his and Melania’s expressions when they get the news show that winning wasn’t the plan. It’s also why he immediately started talking about fraud. He didn’t have any prepared talking points for winning, they were all based on losing and using that to power his next scams.
Before, his power was checked by legislature…but now GOP has full control over the gov, and the supreme Court has 5 members nominated by Trump, soon to be 7.
Hand maidens tale seems possible. Destruction of the middle class through tariffs, union busting, tear down of heath coverage, teardown public schools, force colleges to abandon certain studies or no federal money…
Add in non stop fossil fuel promotion with drill baby drill attitudes, tear down NOAA and the nhc because strong hurricane news reinforces climate change.
I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.
Wanna bet he’ll put up one of his kids (hell perhaps even Barron?) and bend the whole sycophantic side of the GOP into endlesdly propping them up?
In 4 years, you may simply get Trump III. I want to say this notion seems absurd, except that it absolutely isn’t.
Bush SR, JR and Jeb.
Jeb doesen’t count. Please clap.
Lmao fair enough…
Add in non stop fossil fuel promotion with drill baby drill attitudes
Do you remember a few years ago when the orange idiot hugged a piece of coal and called it “beautiful clean coal”? Ugh, what a dip shit.
I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.
And it’ll certainly be one of his moronic children.
I guarantee in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor instead of holding an election.
No. He will not name a successor, he will remain president. Either he will eliminate elections or he will do like his idol, Putin. Arrest and murder anyone who dares oppose him.
He is an extreme narcissist and egotist. Like extreme extreme. He cannot see a future where he’s not on the throne.
Goddamnitalltohell. I forgot we’re going to have to subscribe to private disaster warning systems. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell. Perfectly describes everything they want to do.
tear down NOAA
Fuuuccckkkk… Add to the list of things I forgot… The AccuWeather guy is about to become even more wealthy…
The billionaire class are the only winners of this election, but then again when aren’t they the winner? Money is literally power.
in 4 years Trump will try to name a successor
That would require the narcissist to not think he’s still young and vibrant and will never die. He will go the same way his father did, being manipulated by the worst around him as he drifts into dementia. He will be propped up as a puppet as Reagan was.
He will go the same way his father did, being manipulated by the worst around him as he drifts into dementia. He will be propped up as a puppet as Reagan was.
I’m quite sure that this is already the case.
Here’s a horrifying thought: JD’s Silicon Valley puppetmasters wait until Trump has served just over 2 years into his term, then invoke the 25th and install JD. In the meantime, the MAGA types work the system to ensure they can guarantee a Vance victory through whatever means necessary for the next 2 cycles (since his first abbreviated session won’t count as an official term), or a total of 10 years, before most Americans even realize we have sleepwalked into a Vance dictatorship funded by and primarily benefiting oligarchs like Musk and Thiel
He could postpone the election if America is at war.
“We have always been at war with Eastasia”
That’s funny, I could have sworn it was Eurasia last year. I must be mistaken.
WE FOUND A GOLDSTEIN SYMPATHIZER!!
I’m most certainly not. Oh look, time for The Two Minutes of Hate already. 📺
Trump had a Republican majority in the House and Senate when he entered office in 2017. They were incompetent, and it took them a while to get anything done.
They didn’t have a Project 2025 game plan going in like they do now.
They did, and most of it was implemented then as well.
Yeah but he probably thought he was going to have 8 years in a row. Now he has bigger ass-kissers.
The US? pretty fucking fucked. The World, so fucked it has no idea how truly fucking fucked it is yet.
On a scale from 1 to 10 its about 12 now.
BTW, 90 seconds to midnight!!! Hell yeaaaaah!
Not much will change, this guy has been president before, he spend more time on the golf course then in the oval office.
I expect lots of embarrassing speeches and truths/tweets, but other then that the purple party autocrats will be running the country like they always do.
Yes, there’s an awful lot of hysteria about Trump, when in reality he’s just a shit president.
yeah, they are just being hysterical, it is not as if he publicly encouraged and condoned terrorism, right, comrade?
There is some panicking prompted by the horrible things he’s promised to do but probably can’t, but: -He got Roe v. Wade overturned, stripping rights from Americans while also being responsible for a 3% increase in infant mortality in the US, the first significant increase in decades -about as many people died of COVID as voted for Jill Stein, and while Trump isn’t responsible for all their deaths he significantly worsenee the problem So I’d say beyond shit
When he ran before, he was outside the Republican party establishment and just put his own unprepared cronies in charge.
Last time he was in office housing assistance programs were gutted so that will most likely change
They have project 2025 now with hundreds of people ready to jump into government and make it happen
Right now, this is what I am telling myself. Let’s just hope he is only as bad as he was the first go around, and not as bad as he has been claiming he will be on the campaign trail. He is the lyingest sack of shit to ever hold office. Let’s cross our fingers he was lying about most of the shit he promised his cult.
The headline in this comment is the 29 downvotes.
This is why I like you, Lemmy.
He’s also not going to even try to do half the things he said because he’s a pathological liar
He doesn’t have to. He doesn’t have to do much. Though since he now has unfettered opportunity, I think he will. The groundwork is laid for theocrats to run everything down to the dark confines of the womb.
Pretty fucked. I’m already weighing my options here now that this has happened. My gf is a Brazilian here on a education visa, will Trump deport her? Maybe. If she goes back to see family during the summer will she be allowed back in? I don’t have much faith she will be. My cousin is trans and in a red state now, he’s very much at risk. My other cousin is queer and also at risk. If my dad wasn’t already dead his disability money will have dried up, not to mention his medications and treatments would’ve been unaffordable more than they already were. Thank fuck I don’t have or want kids so they don’t have to grow up in this shit hole of a country, if there’s even a livable planet left with Trump deregulating and adding to the climate crisis.
We’re about to be bent over the table with no lube
Pretty fucked, but not as fucked as Ukraine, Palestine, Lebanon, or Taiwan.
NATO will be fucked for a while if the US withdraws, but other NATO countries may ramp up military spending over time.
This situation is a worldwide danger. The US is/was a world power, it has/had the largest national economy in the world, it has the largest military in the world.
Previously, we could be concerned that democratic countries (including the US) weren’t putting enough pressure on authoritarian countries (like Russia, China, and North Korea) to improve. Now we have to worry that the US will actually become a fully authoritarian country, like Russia or China.
On the bright side… the rest of the world is realizing that being reliant on one country for military power and maintaining stability was a terrible idea. The UN and NATO only have power if the countries are willing to enforce those decisions, and if the US doesn’t, there isn’t really a comparable backup option. The US military was always the elephant in the room keeping things generally less extreme just by its existence and not reacting impulsively.
If NATO fades into oblivion, that would be a great opportunity for European countries to make a news defense organization where a single country like Hungary or Turkey can’t play their political games.
I expect that the EU is going to have to claim defence competencies to continue the Union’s defense. There are way too many small countries in NATO that can’t contribute meaningfully to a military beyond some basic battalions and the EU needs something more robust than France and Poland.
Technically the EU already is an defence organisation (Lisbon accords), even with a stronger mutual assistance clause than NATO. What is different is that there is no integrated command structure. But that is currently rapidly changing, Germany and the Netherlands already are fully integrated (more than NATO standards are), the Baltics are making great progress.
There is at least a chance
*the world
Is that a JoJo’s Reference?
I can’t leave.
I have a child with an abusive, vindictive ex-spouse. Regardless of me having sole custody, I would still need to get both the court’s permission and his permission just to move out of state, so god knows I will not be able to get out of the country.
I’m at a loss. I will not leave without my kid.
Well you go on a vacation and then sort of just not return.
Won’t they just put out a kidnapping notice? Then they get arrested, and bad person gets the kid.
Some places don’t extradite, besides how long til trump completely destroys extradition treaties bc he doesn’t want “criminals entering the US”
It’s little solace, but not all destination countries will care about that. It might force you to stay away, which creates its own issues.
Someone joke bet $500 Michigan will be blue with a +4% lead so I think I’ll joke bet $500 it will just be a repeat of 2016-2020 except 1.5x worse and then by next election maybe the DNC will learn to run a normal primary again and promote a popular candidate who actually promises to meet constituents’ demands instead of ignoring them.
Also someone on this community asked what everyone would do if Trump won and I said I’d probably make a collage of a years worth of my comments telling people ignoring genocide would cost Democrats the election.
So I guess I might go do that now and say “I told you so” to everyone who told me I was wrong.
I wrote that Biden dropping out of the race would be a big mistake. My “I told you so” is worth about as much as yours.
Him dropping out wasn’t his biggest mistake. Him choosing to drop out months after the primary process was his biggest downfall. He basically fucked the democratic party because he couldn’t swallow his ego and drop out when it was clear his popularity among the country was dwindling even in the party itself. Every advisor he had said “hey you likely shouldn’t run again” but he stayed, Hell fucking Obama even told him “yo you aren’t going to win this”. His stubbornness to run for a second term is what killed the chances of a democratic win here.
The ONLY thing I know for certain after this clusterfuck is that Biden would have lost by even more.
I’m fairly certain Biden would have done the same if not worse considering his lower popularity that resulted in Democrats switching to Harris.
Had they planned this out and done a primary, there’d probably be a new candidate who would have done better and possibly won.
Of course that would involve letting people decide their candidate which is a big no no and too expensive to rig and risk losing anyway just like Hillary’s campaign.
I hate that this is true, just for 2 reasons: he is male and white
100% fucked, the USA is now going to join WW3 on the side of the bad guys and get rid of vaccines and the EPA and ACA and so many other things
the USA is now going to join WW3 on the side of the bad guys
What do you mean “join”?
The evil empire that militarily supports dictators across the global south to prevent economic development and keep cheap labor and resources flowing out are the bad guys, this hasn’t and will not change short of a revolution or the empire’s control collapsing.
I mean send American troops to help out Russia in Ukraine, and send troops to help out China in Taiwan, and obviously send troops to help out Israel in Palestine
We’ve already sent troops to help Israel in Palestine, remember that aid pier that Israel used to do warcrimes, and now there’s troops operating aircraft and a missile defense system to prevent anyone from interfering with Israel’s genocide.
help out Russia in Ukraine
Just not sending weapons and money should be enough to get Ukraine back to the peace table and stop the bloodshed.
help out China in Taiwan
Ironically if we didn’t try to use Taiwan for geopolitical goals, China would have no reason to invade, since a peaceful reintegration over time is far more advantageous than the destruction and insurgency that comes with a military option.
Why would Putin’s American President ever help Ukraine, are you delusional?
China would have wanted Taiwan regardless, authoritarian regimes love to conquer and expand
Ukraine
You’re not understanding, the arms and money we send Ukraine enables them to continue the war. Last year, Russia offered a peace deal, giving up a portion of the territory they occupied at the time. Ukraine declined and says they won’t settle for less than all their territory, including Crimea. Without the weapons, they’d be forced to agree to a deal. Given that Russia probably knows they can’t deal with the insurgency outside of Russian-speaking Ukraine, they’ll probably agree to borders similar to what exists now.
China would have wanted Taiwan regardless
I mean the Republic of China is a part of China, it’s eventual reunification is inevitable, but they obviously see that reunification by invasion would be very expensive, both in cost of the invasion, cost of the insurgency, and resulting sanctions from their third-biggest trading partner. The only case where they’d waste billions of dollars and hundreds of thousand of lives is if the US made that option better than the alternative.
The same calculation happened with Russia; after the maidan coup, the civil war on their border caused them to strategic infrastructure and terrorist attacks. They erroneously calculated the cost of having a hostile, NATO-backed state on the border would be greater than a quick invasion and replacing the US puppet with another Russian one.
You need to look closer to understand what pressures cause countries to do things, these places aren’t cartoons who just decide to self-destruct their economies and send an entire generation into a meat grinder because aUTHoriTariaNism.
Man, Lemmings just love downvoting anything that hurts their fee fees.
Remember all thay resistance he faced in 2016? Gone. That shit takes decades to build up and was out of steam four years ago.
After that I have no idea.
