Pretty much the title sums it up. There’s a lot to be concerned about, and one thing I find personally disconcerting is how US educational systems might be impacted.

Do we need to make backups of, like, everything educational and scientific? And where are all the places and forms that we can host these materials?

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    A climate change denier will head of the EPA.

    A vaccine denier will be our Health Secretary.

    An oil exec will head the Department of Energy.

    Trump has been vocally pro-book bans in the past, and the modern GOP has never been against it, and has even been doing it at an increasing rate over the past few years.

    These are people that are happy to remove other people that disagree with them. You really don’t think they’re going to remove books and papers? lol

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      The only thing is that there’s not really a vehicle for the fed to implement those bans. For all the weaknesses in the US constitution, freedom of speech is a historically tough nut for the government to crack. Not that they haven’t tried, but they have almost no control over what media is and is not allowed to be published publicly.

      What is working is when states get to decide what material to provide in schools. That includes required curriculum and what books they will buy and offer in classrooms and libraries. So the state can teach (or not teach) whatever they want within the confines of their own schools, but there’s nothing they could do if, say, someone was to set up shop on the sidewalk across the street and hand out free copies of Gender Queer to any students who walk by. Nor could the fed, as it stands.

      So we’ve led our horses to water, but how do we make them drink? How do you convince the students to want to pick up that book and read it for fun, and how can you help them understand what it all means when the critical reading skills for queer literature are not being taught?

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        So we’ve led our horses to water, but how do we make them drink?

        “We’ve led the horse to water” is just “it’s not literally illegal to own?” OK.

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      Remove books and papers from where? The government in the US has influence on this, for sure, but there is no mechanism for the government to interfere with the private ownership of literature

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        Not all literature is privately owned. I don’t think you’re quite aware of how many research studies, trials, and such are funded by the US Government. All of that information is currently accessible to quite a few people. What happens when it no longer is? And that’s just one example.

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          Of course the federal government has a great deal of influence over current and future research, but that isn’t the topic. OP’s asking about existing literature.

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            Okay, I’m going to say this again considering you clearly didn’t read what I had to say.

            Not all literature is privately owned. I don’t think you’re quite aware of how many research studies, trials, and such are funded by the US Government. All of that information is currently accessible to quite a few people. What happens when it no longer is? And that’s just one example.

            Yeah… research? It’s saved in a thing called a document. Now it’s not super well known but documents are actually literature. Did you know that? Literature does not mean artistically written fiction. Literature is a pretty wide term and saved research and research results? Yeah. That’s included in that and is very much one of the things that OP was asking about.

            All you did just there was demonstrate how remarkably little you know about the subject and that you shouldn’t be speaking on it at all.

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                Jesus Christ. Did I say anything about a journal? No. There are shitloads of ways that one can fund and host a document. Tons of Universities in the United States use that information in their Universities and keep them publicly available. Soemthing that the United States could force them to stop as the US has ownership rights to those documents. Now while the United States is currently set in a way that those papers are typically made publicly available due to taxpayers funding it, the concern that this thread is literally talking about is that they will change that.

                That is a single example for a single type of document.

                This post is asking a broad question and you keep focusing down to minute details and ignoring the questions actually asked.

                Your reactions are beyond obtuse in this situation. You don’t seem to be capable of thinking in any trajectory other than your own.

                Alright I’m blocking you now. You’re either willfully ignorant, maliciously ignoring half of what I have to say or a troll. In any case, you are wasting my time as well as everyone elses here and I’m done with it.

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                  You seem really angry for someone who never even tried to answer OP’s question. What specifically should they be archiving, oh wise one?