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Summary
Donald Trump’s advisers are proposing plans to end the Ukraine war that involve territorial concessions to Russia and ruling out NATO membership for Ukraine.
These proposals aim to pressure both sides into negotiations, leveraging military aid as a carrot or stick. Plans include freezing current battle lines or creating demilitarized zones.
Analysts doubt the feasibility, citing likely resistance from Ukraine, European allies, and U.S. lawmakers.
Trump’s approach reflects his campaign pledge to resolve the conflict quickly, but critics argue it risks legitimizing Russian aggression and undermining Western alliances.
No, you see we need to fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood. Every Ukrainian man, woman, and child must be sacrificed and the whole of Ukraine sold for scrap then reduced to toxic, landmine-ridden wastes, unfit for human habitation.
Giving Ukraine the necessary arms doesn’t force them to keep fighting.
It just allows them to decide when they want to stop.
That would be true if Ukraine wasn’t drafting its people and giving prison sentences for expressing that Ukraine should cede the territory its lost for peace, while the US demands they draft even younger people.
Currently, most of the people fighting on either side have no choice, nor do the people having their homes destroyed.
That’s true in every war ever. Still, Ukraine is a sovereign nation. The Russian talking point that “The West” is fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian man is nonsense.
Ukraine is fighting, and the Ukrainian government decides how long.
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hmm, I wonder who represents the will of the Ukrainian people in your opinion…
and knows what’s best for them…
and is trying his hardest to liberate the country from its democratically elected government, so the people can finally live in
RussiaI mean Freedom!Russia being shit doesn’t make the other country run by a billionaire who sold its state assets for pennies on the dollar and sent an entire generation to die in a meatgrinder good.
That war (between capitalist powers) is bad for the people and good for oligarchs shouldn’t be a controversial take.
It’s not a civil war if “separatists” get weekly weapons, fuel and food convoys from Russia, and the whole thing was started by GRU agents, and requires thousands of Russian troops. That was the case approximately from 2014 to 2022. I have a prejudice against people who refer to the Russian-backed insurgency in Eastern Ukraine as a “civil war”. It typically tells of which information sources they prefer and consume.
Every war is prolonged as long as armies are willing and able to fight, and politicians don’t make peace.
The easiest way to get a sustainable peace is simple: Putin needs to withdraw troops from Ukraine. Alas, he’s not in the mood - not yet. But he regularly orders polls and reads results, and has some understanding of how Russia’s economy is doing. He could be in the mood within a year.
Compared to supporting Ukraine through another year of fighting to obtain a lasting peace at acceptable terms (ideally: internationally recognized borders), making an unstable and unjust peace by undermining Ukraine (so they’d cave in and agree to an unjust peace in the minimum amount of time) might not be the best option.
Unfortunately it looks that Trump is going to try exactly that. And there’s hardly anyone in the US who can alter the outcome. Other members of NATO can alter the outcome however, by (almost) doubling their support.
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The millions displaced, livelihoods destroyed, hundreds of thousands dead is BECAUSE RUSSIA CHOSE TO INVADE.
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You now what would be total bodacious of you? If you could say: