• meyotch@slrpnk.netOP
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    14 days ago

    Do you have any links to conservative takes on this? I know full well I am in a bubble and that’s the way I god damn like it. But in this case, knowing the universality of the sentiment would be really, umm, empowering?

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      14 days ago

      Well I am a conservative and mostly associate with conservatives. Talking to my liberal friends, their take is almost identical to my Republican friends.

      I don’t think people realized how aligned everyone is on this issue.

      It’s the stories that are coming out that is making people talk about this topic. Those stories were ignored until the CEO was murdered.

      People denied cancer treatment. wtf.

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        14 days ago

        I live in an area so red that if you saw it you’d say it was bleeding. The people here always, and I mean always, talk about how wrong it is for someone to act as a vigilante, and murder is wrong, and the insurance companies might be not-the-best, but it’s no excuse… bla bla bla. They think the woman here is in the wrong, and don’t even care.

        See the recent slew of posts about the new york times for the conservative take on the issue.

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        13 days ago

        I’ve lost several friends who couldn’t afford cancer treatments. I have one now who is looking for some help because their current insurance doesn’t cover excision of diseased organ, and open enrollment is over.

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          13 days ago

          Sorry to hear about your fiends. That’s bullshit.

          My dad died from cancer and the place where he worked was amazing. When you are out of work, you have to pay cobra.

          The owner of the company paid his full insurance till he died. My dad had only worked there a year or so. The owner said his employees are like family and he’d never let them be uninsured.

          Now the owner was wealthy but not that wealthy. He came to the funeral and brought his whole family.

          While it’s an amazing story, it sucks my dad could have been without insurance had it not been the the dentistry of his boss. The boss was also out of a lot of money and while he was wealthy, he wasn’t that wealthy.

          Nobody should have to deal with a chronic condition because of a lack of insurance. It’s a problem we need to solve and neither party really wants to solve it.

          I’m hoping Trump does something about it. This is his chance to blow everyone away with a solution. He’s supported a single payer system in the past. Let’s see him do it now.

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            13 days ago

            Thank you so much for your kindness, it is so meaningful in the right way. I am sorry you lost your dad. Insurance is no guarantee of anything, but it does help ease financial burdens. It’s touching that a boss of an employee of one year had the kindness and compassion to cover your dad.

            No, neither party wants to rush the wrath of the owning class, and to be honest, I have a hard time imagining politicians will work toward meaningful changes until we fix the fact that an owning class exists. It’s our tax dollars, yet we have crumbling education, crumbling health, crumbling physical infrastructure, crumbling postal service, and “too big to fail” corporate interests, which if they had failed, would have tanked theglobal economy, not only our own.

            It’s almost like most people have depth and nuance, but are so mired in bs, that has to be moved away from ourselves to see it in others, even in ourselves, sometimes.

            We can hope, but getting mad and channeling that answer to working together for common causes is probably a good idea. Hope for the best, plan for the worst. If be honored to work alongside you, in spirit, since proximity is an immediate issue.

            Wishing you all the best.

            Side topic: does anyone know if there are Lemmy magazines dedicated to helping us find organizing groups in our individual areas? Tyia