• nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    You challenged nothing. This:

    So it’s okay because you like it?

    is bullshit. His killing is morally justifiable since he himself caused many more deaths (literally more than Bin Laden) and the legal and political system was powerless to stop him. Is there danger in vigilante justice? Sure. If you want to make that case then make it with some clarity. This particular case is completely cut and dry, though. He very obviously deserved to die. If your response to his killing being celebrated is to regress all the way to “well doesn’t this mean anyone can kill anyone” then you’re not even really engaging in the conversation, let alone challenging anyone’s world view.

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      That was a serious question. If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t then what kind of morals are acting on? Yeah it came because I was frustrated that people can’t seem to get off trying to evade the idea of glorification. But it’s still serious, if your knee jerk reaction is to say it’s not a glorification because it’s justified then you run a real risk that vigilantism is only part of. Authoritarian states work the same way.

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        If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t

        That’s not the situation, nor what anyone is asserting. Who are you talking to?

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              No because it was warranted and deserved. Take a look around, this is not an edgy opinion. The majority of Americans feel the way I do, why is that?

              I am one of the most non-violent people. I’ve never struck a person in 35 years of life. The only time violence is warranted is when it is a response to violence. Social murder warrants actual murder. Tens of thousands dead vs one CEO dead. You are crying about the wrong death

              From just above. Literally the person who made me ask that question. And sure enough it’s a call to mob violence while maintaining they are non violent. This is how this shit gets out of hand.

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                None of that amounts to this:

                If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t then what kind of morals are acting on?

                The reasons this was justifiable have been explained to you ad nauseum. You insist on pretending like its an arbitrary whim despite that. Do you cry every time a drug cartel kingpin gets shot?

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                  They literally appealed to the band wagon and a nebulous concept of “social murder”.

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                    You absolutely suck at articulating a point. Here, let me do it for you: the problem with vigilante justice is that the lack of a process around who gets got means that eventually someone is going to kill someone who didn’t deserve it. While Brian Thompson was a worthless parasite who literally thrived based on how much he could increase human suffering, the answer is to reform the systems that allow him to exist, rather than calling for random people to take matters entirely into their own hands and kill whomever they deem unworthy of life. The answer is to bring genuine health care reform into the democratic realm and get to a point where health insurance companies that have a direct profit-motive to deny as many claims as possible either do not exist, or are regulated to within an inch of their lives.