• SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
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    9 days ago

    Moderation certainly takes significant time and effort, which is why there will only ever be a rather small subset of the wide variety of personalities found in humans actually doing the work for free. It’s tailor-made for those without much else to do in life & who are desperately seeking to have more control over something in their lives. Not saying that’s true of all mods by a long shot, but it’s definitely a major draw for those of that persuasion. They’re always going to be an issue unless there’s some way to counterbalance their power without having to abandon the community and start all over again building another - one which still is just as vulnerable to falling prey to the whims of a person who shouldn’t be moderating.

    • j4k3@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      I mod one of the larger communities. I’m just the janitor. Y’all are the real mods as far as I’m concerned. It really isn’t very much time as far as mod stuff here. I don’t read every post or comment. If y’all see something, say something. It doesn’t mean I will take the action from the flag. It only means I will read into it, give the benefit of the doubt in every way possible and mod very conservatively in line with community voting too. I also will tell you if I am commenting or questioning as a mod, and differ to another mod if I am ever involved in an issue personally.

      Being a mod does not need to be a chore or a power trip. Just treat it like a job as a janitor and trust in the community as a whole while completely setting yourself aside. It is really not that hard.

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
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      9 days ago

      And who do you propose has the job of moderating the moderators? Whoever that group is, same problem… instance admins, and if you don’t like the instance admins… build your own instance, with better rules, etc. Turtles all the way down.

      You vote with your time and attention, if your participating in a community you endorse it. If you want to change the community you can, as above. Wishing, or externalizing, your desires onto other people’s behavior (the lifeless moderators your negging in the above comment) will not be effective in realizing the change you want to see.

      And if the response to that is ‘woah, woah, I don’t want to do all that work’ then… clearly the moderation isn’t that bad

      if the only people who can moderate, as you posit, don’t have a life - implying you can’t moderate because you do have a life… then the moderation isn’t bad enough to motivate you to take on responsibility… so its good enough.

        • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
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          8 days ago

          (You’re linked post doesn’t address any of my points, and just repeat yourself, but okay fine)

          Okay, if I understand that post correctly, you want direct democracy to determine moderation in a community.

          How do you prevent brigading? What about a community talking about sensitive topics, like diet and exercise? Or vegan versus carnivore? One side’s going to have more people than the other, and they can moderate the other into silence?

          I think it’s an interesting experiment, just like craigslist used to do, or slashdot with metamoderation.

          If you build it, I’ll give it a shot