• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    I think you’re a bit confused about what “State Capitalism” is in Marxian economics, here. Marx and Engels both repeatedly asserted that folding Capital into the Public Sector is a gradual process once “lower-stage Communism” (now referred to as “Socialism”) was achieved. This directly implies markets and Private Property exist even within a society that had already become Socialist. I am not sure how you can counter that without attempting to redefine Marxism or reject it wholly.

    As for the nature of the PRC’s economics, the Public Sector is primary, and the Private Sector is gradually more heavily influenced and planned by government. This does not mean it’s “impossible to get relief because the CPC is their boss,” the CPC is not run for profit like that. SOEs compete in the Private Sector, but the CPC itself is not made up of the bourgeoisie, but overwhelmingly not bourgeoisie.

    I think reading theory would help you a lot with understanding how the PRC operates and why.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          Oh look, exploitation of labor.

          And the government literally operates out of the former Imperial Garden.

          This shit took seconds to find, literal seconds. Forcing your people to eat shit while you “serve” in luxury is not anyone’s idea of Marxism.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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            8 days ago

            This article is on an entirely different subject, namely labor conditions, not based on whether or not the CPC is driven by profit. Even if we fully accept everything in the article as factual (despite shaky sources like the New York-based China Labor Watch) it does not at all translate to the CPC being driven by profit, which you said was backed by evidence that I asked for. If it took you literal seconds to not even fact-check or verify if your source even supports your argument, I know for a fact you didn’t even read the article, which is disingenuous at best. Not to mention the fact that it’s paywalled, of course.

            Moreover, we can absolutely see the ongoing improvements in conditions for the working class in China, such as the completion of eliminating extreme poverty recently. It is truly difficult to comprehend the vast and ongoing improvements in China, a developing country, for the working class. It isn’t a perfect wonderland, of course not, but it is Socialist and still guided by Marxism, and you haven’t yet countered that.