• SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If someone came into your country and started to rape, kill and kidnap your people would you roll over and give them whatever they wanted to stop doing that?

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      1 year ago

      Maybe we should break into their home and see if they want to start peace negotiations. Because nobody calls the police when that happens. Give us half your stuff and we will leave.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      If the alternative was that they would rape, kill, and kidnap my people for the next 20 years without end?

      I’m not willing to fight this war to the last Ukrainian.

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          1 year ago

          It is possible to include certain guarantees within a treaty to make it painful for either side to break it, or to make breaking it extremely difficult. That’s what Ukraine would have to demand from Russia - some kind of leverage or collateral to guarantee the peace holds.

      • M0oP0o@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You are Ukrainian then? Because I think they are the only ones who get to make that call.

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          1 year ago

          The conflict is not occurring in a vacuum. They can pretend that they are the only ones who can make that decision, but without the West sending ridiculous amounts of money in arms and support, they wouldn’t be in a position to make any decision. As long as they’re entirely dependent on others, they can’t monopolize the decision making here.

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            1 year ago

            See you have an issue in that argument. Without support (as that is what I assume would be the threat here) Ukraine has very clearly stated that it would fight on. You seem to forget that the west just lost a war in Afghanistan, who had no real foreign support.

            All that cutting support off would do would drag this conflict out and make it mostly partisan action.