I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

  • prototype_g2@lemmy.ml
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    21 minutes ago

    Why don’t you asked them yourself? [email protected]

    Probably a bad idea to ask about a Marxist instance on a .world community, since .world is known to be quite biased against Marxism.

  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    23 minutes ago

    Hexbear users will bully you to hell the very second you say something they disagree with. In my case, I said South Park is a funny show. They also think Putin is a good guy and at the same time they pretend 90% of their users are trans. Basically it’s a bunch of douche kids playing revolutionaries and intimating anyone they disagree with. My 2 cents.

  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    2 hours ago

    I just took a look at your participation in the hexbear thread you are referencing, and I’m confused about the issue. Seems like you got mostly thoughtful and positive replies. There was some .world bashing at the end including the bit you quoted. It seems strange to me that rather than ask questions about hexbear to the actual users there, you came over here to ask on an instance that has daily threads complaining about leftist instances.

  • DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    They seem like grad users in the fact that no one outside their instance wants to federate with their toxic instance. Who would’ve guessed that a highly charged instances calls people “Hitlerites” as an insult. (Obv I lack context here regarding the comment.)

  • TheFrirish@jlai.lu
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    6 hours ago

    https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad

    One word, Tankies.

    The community I shared rounds up posts that really portray their Phalusophy Philosophy really well. Now you would need to scroll down a bit to see some posts from hexbear specifically.

    but I cannot recommend you enough to stay well away from hexbear, lemmygrad and if possible .ml

  • Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml
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    6 hours ago

    Hexbear is the only community i have blocked, they call anyone with a different opinion nazis, they are either trolling or mentally ill

  • rusticus@lemm.ee
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    7 hours ago

    Yes block hexbear. It’s one of the first things I did on Lenny. Save yourself the toxicity of dealing with them.

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Tankies

    It’s an instance meant to seem attractive to western youths while explicitly only serving the needs of the Chinese Dictatorship.

    Most of their users are bots, human decency is their kryptonite. If ever you are convinced that any of them are your friends, you’re just another mark they intend to make full use of and throw away: you are not a human being in the eyes of Hexbear.

  • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    It’s an instance that became known for brigading other instances to “dunk” on anyone who has remotely different ideas than they do, as well as spamming oversized emojis and pictures of pigs shitting on their own testicles. They have been defederated by most instances for good reason, as they always showed up enmasse to completely derail discussion and their own stated purpose of federating with other instances was to “dunk on liberals and dismantle Western propaganda”. Their users would harass people in DMs for weeks on end if that person said something they didn’t like. I was there to see this happen in several instances before they all defederated from Hexbear and it almost made me quit Lemmy entirely.

    If you need examples, go on an instance that federates with Hexbear and look at any thread on various instances involving federating or defederating with them.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Hexbear is pretty overwhelmingly queer/trans and anarchist/communist.

    If you’ve never run into a transfem communist IRL it’s probably because you’re not in many queer or left wing organizing spaces.

    I’m actually pretty new to Lemmy in the last year and in that time I’ve seen way more .world posters being toxic about .ml/hexbear and making vague posts about how bad they are. I have to imagine that’s why you’re now seeing backlash to .world. Also most of the time I see people complaining about these instances and I dig into the modlog it’s overwhelmingly because they got banned at some point for being reactionary and are bent out of shape about it.

  • Allero@lemmy.today
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    8 hours ago

    Note: being on Lemmy for about a year, I didn’t live through the early days of this place. Here’s what I can recollect, as neutrally given as possible.

    TL;DR The recent conflicts between two politically different groups on Lemmy have radicalized many people, and many Hexbear residents in particular. Unless you are to discuss the far-left ideas and are very radical about disadvantaged groups, you are safe to block it.

    Hexbear is a far-left (as in actually communist) anti-discrimination community, initially more of a safe haven to promote equality and foster a healthy and welcoming place for leftists to come together.

    With core developers of Lemmy also being far-left, Hexbear naturally fitted the landscape along with the official Lemmy.ml, heavy far-left Lemmygrad.ml and others.

    As time went on, however, all sorts of left-leaning and apolitical folks, not just far-left, came to the platform, filling other instances like Lemmy.world (now the most populated of them all), sh.itjust.works and many others.

    As a result, Lemmy has two groups of people with radically different political views: one is a group of more or less organized far-left, and the other is everyone else, most commonly liberals. This distinction has caused a lot of conflicts and heated discussions based on political adherence.

    Most notable case is latest US elections. The far left side generally called not to vote Democrat as Biden has failed to deliver on many of his promises and empowered Israel to commit war crimes in Palestine, while the liberal audience called to vote Democrat to not let Republicans take the lead, which may arguably lead to an even worse outcome than unaccountable Dems can make.

    This divide has raised a lot of mutual hostility, brigading, and uncivil behavior, which has radicalized many on both sides of the conflict, the consequences of which you have got to experience.

    What to do with that is up to you to decide. Hexbear is very politically uniform and very political overall, so if you’re not here to discuss communism, you won’t lose much and will gain additional peace of mind.

    • danciestlobster@lemm.ee
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      6 hours ago

      This is by far the best and most informative answer. The only thing it’s missing as another couple commenters pointed out is hexbear is all about their oversized memes and emojis, making anytime you happen upon one of their posts extremely conspicuous (even if politics aren’t being discussed).

    • Babalugats@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      I’m being a little pedantic here, but “far left (as in actually communist)” wasn’t a thing until these recent online debates and forming groups started putting labels on groups and putting them into boxes. Communists are not necessarily left, nor far left. It feels a bit weird to ‘put’ them anywhere. That said, I know nothing about hexbear or this little group on Lemmy and how they identify…

      • Allero@lemmy.today
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        3 hours ago

        It is unclear what this excerpt is meant to demonstrate.

        By default, the terms “left” and “right” are describing the level of economic equality/freedom in a given society. The left call for economic equality and redistribution of resources, either through peaceful cooperation and abundance or through heavy state intervention, the right stands for private property above equality and freedom to act in personal financial interest.

        Communists hold economic equality as paramount and vital for society, and put it above all else; in a perfect communist world, everyone always has access to everything that is available in an economy, and as such, there is no money (you can already take anything you need) and no point to privatize anything as there’s no revenue to speak of.

        Thereby, communism is far left.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        8 hours ago

        What do you believe “lefitsm” means? I can’t see a world where an ideology based on public ownership, collectivization, and working class liberation could be seen not as left.

        • Babalugats@lemmy.world
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          7 hours ago

          A label, in all honesty. Historically they’re not left nor right nor middle. They can have ideologies of many, but too long to get into here. I was being pedantic because it’s a slight bug of mine when they are labelled and boxed like that. For example Nikolai Bukharin and Alexei Rykov (Bukharinists) and others like Joseph Stalin were not considered left but were communist.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        8 hours ago

        communists are on the left, not sure the page you linked is making the case for anything other than American political scientists being extremely unserious

  • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    10 hours ago

    Here’s my take…

    They’re more cohesive and insular than most groups you’ll find on social media.

    They’ve brewed their own strongly held culture and ideology.

    Many are also used to being ostracised by other communities due to sexual preferences or other personal attributes.

    The result is, if you naively post in a thread in which they are active your opinion will get stomped on if it does not directly align with theirs.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      8 hours ago

      Many are also used to being ostracised by other communities due to sexual preferences or other personal attributes.

      Based on their polling, most are trans and based on reading their posts for the last year, most are sick of the rampant transphobia on pretty much every social media platform, including on lemmy

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        8 hours ago

        You’ll find a good amount of transphobia on this post too, proving them correct. One user is directly attacking trans users by claiming that the trans user is “faking it” and attacked another user by defending chasers, calling chasers “allies.”