No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.
@legion02 @CorruptBuddha, don’t blame laptops, blame Windows. The difference between PC/laptops and Mac is compatibility, to use any OS you want, Mac is only compatible with Mac, apart from costing twice as much as a PC/Laptop with equivalent system performance and features.
Does it matter who’s at fault? The end result is the same, a dangerously hot laptop. Even though I’m a huge Linux advocate it’s not an option for work reasons.
@legion02; ???, not even using Windows my laptop (a cheap one that cost me €350) heats up above 50º when I play a 3D FPS game or when I render to an Image. If it gets too hot it can depend on too many things, that your Sys Specs are too low, that the ventilation does not work well because it is dirty, that the thermal paste needs to be renewed, there are too many applications that are loaded at boot that take up too much RAM…
In any case, it is not normal and requires you to check it.
You’re entirely missing the point. It overheats because I put it in a bag when it’s supposed to be asleep. But it’s not actually sleep because microsoft and the laptop manufacturers designed modern sleep in a way that makes that non-deterministic. So now my laptop is awake inside the bag it normally sleeps in, killing the battery and making the laptop uncomfortably hot.
Watch the ltt video (yeah bad timing referencing ltt) “Microsoft is forcing me to buy macbooks” and you’ll understand the problem I’m describing.
@legion02, I dont use sleep, I shut down the system, more if I put it in a bag to carry it to an other site. It’s logical that the system still in Standby also need ventilation.
With modern systems with an SSD a Cold start is only a few seconds slower than to start from Sleep mode, because of this the last mode isnt really necessary, apart a cold start from power off avoid a lot of crap in memory and reset the counter of using time to zero, save battery and is healthier for the system.
No, it doesn’t make sense that a system in sandby would need ventilation. The power draw is very low (not enough to need cooling).
The issue isn’t that it’s heating up in standby, the issue is that the system wakes from sleep for no reason within the bag.
This did happen to a lesser extent with the older, slower sleep method (S3 sleep), but recent Intel chips and UEFI firmwares have disabled this.
@kylemsguy @pizzahoe @mechoman444 @catfish @frostwhitewolf @CorruptBuddha @legion02, maybe, it is clear that the standby power is very low, depending on the active modules, and that it does not need much cooling.
Although in a closed space with the ventilation slits covered, it is possible that heat can accumulate. Normally for the laptop to wake up from standby requires a clear intervention, such as pressing a key or opening the screen, not very likely when in a case
That’s the entire issue. Windows laptops with modern standby will wake from sleep without user intervention. It’s a bug that still hasn’t been fixed.
@kylemsguy @pizzahoe @mechoman444 @catfish @frostwhitewolf @CorruptBuddha @legion02, the only cause may be that some process is still running. In Windows quite possible with so many telemetry and threads of some stupid services, which causes so many new words that you invent to disable them on a new PC.