The United States has announced the approval of the sale of more than $7.4bn in bombs, missiles and related equipment to Israel, which has used American-made weapons to devastating effect during the war in Gaza.

The state department has signed off on the sale of $6.75bn in bombs, guidance kits and fuses, in addition to $660m in Hellfire missiles, according to the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA).

The proposed sale of the bombs “improves Israel’s capability to meet current and future threats, strengthen its homeland defense, and serves as a deterrent to regional threats”, the DSCA said in a statement.

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    But you do realize that trump is much much much much worse, right? It’s not just about the genocide, you know.

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      These people have enough privilege that they know they won’t be put in the camps first. And they probably think they never will. So it’s no risk to them.

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      Worse how? In terms of for Palestine. They were always screwed no matter what. It seems to me that Trump is pretty much identical to Biden in terms of supporting Palestine, except he’s an idiot and says the quiet part out loud while Biden just recited Zionist talking points.

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        I literally said “it’s not just about the genocide.” Palestine isn’t the only thing going on in the world, and there are millions of people who are being affected right here in the US because of trump’s fascist behavior.

        I’m sorry about Palestine, and if there was a candidate who vowed to stop feeding Israel money & weapons, I’d vote for them. But I’m not a single issue voter, because I’m not a fucking moron. I can’t turn my back on transsexuals in America, or Latin American refugees, or immigrants in the US, or low-income people, the mentally ill, the elderly, non-Christians, gays, the sick, or pregnant women in America. I can’t ignore climate change. I can’t ignore the possibility of another pandemic. The US public education system is in danger. Environmental protections are in danger. Countless other public health & safety programs are in danger. Ukrainians are in danger. All because of trump.

        I’m supposed to not vote for a candidate who supports genocide, when both candidates support it, but one of the two also threatens everything else, plus so much more?

        The way our political system works is if you don’t vote for one it practically counts as a vote for the other-so refusing to vote is also supporting genocide.

        Like other people have said- it’s a real life trolly problem. The people are already tied to the tracks, and all I can do is pull a lever. There is no avoiding it.

        I hate the genocide. I support Palestine. I believe that between the two candidates, at least there was a sliver of a chance that they would stop the genocide under a Democratic presidency. Under a Republican presidency, there is less than zero chance. In addition to all I’ve listed above, and more.

        In terms of Palestine maybe it’s a wash. But at least the Dems have a handful of party members who want to stop helping Israel. But my child right here in the US is in danger now because of trump. Billions of children’s futures are in danger because of trump.

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          Yeah it sucks for all of us that have like morals and ethics and crap. Like I said, I ate shit and voted for Democrats like I’ve done for my entire life. I did not and would never vote for a republican and I’m not encouraging anyone to. What I’m saying is that our politics is like making a choice between cutting your dick off or getting your eye poked out. There is no good option.

          I feel deeply for people who have children, you probably shouldn’t have done that.

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      To some people the genocide overshadows anything else because… Y’know, it is/was a genocide. Telling those people that “it’s not just about the genocide” is, frankly, barking up the wrong tree.

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        Personally I’d prefer a single genocide over a genocide, all foreign aid being pulled, dumping vital irrigation reserves, and more.

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            This is both disingenuous and extremely reductive.

            The majority of foreign aid in the past few years has gone to Ukraine. It also goes into disease prevention, such as the Ebola outbreak, and fighting aids and other diseases.

            Are there issues? Absolutely. But those issues are more about the US not caring that it destroys existing infrastructure (for instance Haitis ability to grow food) while replacing it with dependence on the US.

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        And yet they did nothing to stop the genocides of brown and queer people in America happening now.

        I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

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          But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

          I mean does America have anything to do with that? Your problem is with the Emirates for supporting that genocide.

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              Okay this was an interesting and informative read but it does nothing to contradict my point. The article is arguing that America didn’t do enough to stop the genocide in Sudan, not that it’s in any way directly supporting the RSF.

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                What are you even talking about now?

                This is what I said:

                I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

                That has nothing to do with supporting anyone. Exactly the opposite. People who need support are getting none. Because their genocide does not matter to the world. Which is the same thing that will happen when the genocide of queer people in the U.S. reaches that level.

                Because queer people don’t matter and if they die, it doesn’t matter. Even if they’re Palestinian. Any Palestinian-American who gets put in a camp for being queer? Who cares when Biden supported the only genocide that’s apparently worth caring about?

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                  And I’m saying that the reason people are/were making so much noise amount about the Gaza genocide in relation to the election is because it was funded and protected by America. A genocide happening on the other side of the world and the government actively funding a genocide on the other side of the world are completely different things that call for completely different responses.

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                    Yes, I realize you want to continue litigating the election as if it matters and that doing so will somehow help Palestine.

                    I just don’t know how it helps anything.

                    It sure doesn’t help with any other genocide going on in the world. But as I said, those don’t matter apparently.

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      i don’t think he’s much much much much worse, that’s too many muchs- maaaybe much much worse- and that’s neither here or there… genocide IS a reasonable red line and you can’t gaslight me off my solid footing in that regard.

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            Than what was happening under the dems.

            It’s already happening. US contractors on the ground, and Trump OKd ramping up in the West Bank which the dems were also blocking

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              which the dems were also blocking

              Which the dems were what? Israel ramped up operations in the West Bank during the war if you remember that. Also at least 200 thousand Gazans have died my man at least wait until something (and no, Trump saying horrible things doesn’t qualify) happens before you say “worse than what was happening under the dems”.

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                  Blocking. They didn’t ramp them up til the level they’re at now until Trump got in for a reason.

                  They did, though. What are they doing now rhat they didn’t during the war?

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                    Intensified its activities in the West Bank, including accelerating settlement expansion, legalising previously unauthorised outposts, and conducting large-scale military operations. Operation Iron Wall was launched, and now they’re aiming for full legal annexation.

                    Trump has lifted sanctions, reversed blocks, and given them the green light to ramp it up to 11.

                    What exactly do you think Adelson paid for?