I have seen a lot of tesla vandalism online the last few days and I’m kind of on the fence about it.
I’ve seen several examples locally here in BC, Canada.
I think totally warranted at newly purchased teslas going forward. Also it serves as a deterrent for potential future buyers.
But vandalizing a car that is a few years old I think is lame. Those driversare already being punished enough by driving something around that’s worth less than scrap.
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I really hope that’s not where Canadians are headed with this. Personally, I think it would be tragic to see us and for the world to see us deteriorate into what we hate.
That’s vandalism?
I’m reading these comments and realizing just how many assholes after on lemmy.
People on here actually justifying vandalizing someone’s property.
Oh they’re wealthy so it’s ok.
Oh commenter doesn’t like person a so it’s ok to hurt person b property.
Fucking hell people are assholes.
Writing in the dust is not vandalism. FFS!
The question asked was what I thought of vandalism.
And yes I agree writing in dust is not vandalism
That’s not the question
Yeah. Lemmy was ok for a few months after the api exodus but seems to have shrunk down to some really, um, I guess immature people? Maybe fringy angry self righteous people? I’ve been coming back less and less often and it seems to be getting worse, but there is the occasional gem and I’m never going back to the bad place.
Right now, Lemmy is unfortunately full of a few dozen small, super-passionate echo chambers. People get very emotionally charged takes that can sound nonsense to anyone outside their bubble—but to them, it’s considered the absolute reality of the situation
I haven’t actually seen a thread that proves this more than this one. These people are ok with fucking up other normie people’s shit.
Guys this war isn’t amongst ourselves. You figured out how to post on lemmy. You should be way smarter than this.
Ya I’m glad I posted this because these responses are actually wild.
One that’s already purchased? I could go either way.
A lot full of cars at the dealership? All bets are off.
I thought teslas whole shtick was bypassing stealerships. you know, before they where Nazis.
They still have dealerships more or less. They also have to store the cars somewhere before you take delivery.
They don’t just poof on your doorstep after you click buy.
“Dealership” may be the wrong word, but they have “showrooms,” with plenty of stock, all over the country.
I happen to know where a ‘graveyard’ of unsellable teslas is within 20 miles of where I live. The company has insurance on them though, I guarantee it.
No.
Can’t they just decorate them with fridge magnets?
I’m just gonna be blunt. And I mean exactly what this sounds like.
There is NOTHING negative you can do to a Nazi lover that could possibly be construed as immoral.
Illegal, sure (in this current farce of government). But every dead Nazi is good for the world. Bar none, no exclusions. I wanna see Nazi corpses everywhere. I wanna see clips of them suffering before their deaths. Comeuppance is such a delicious beverage. The tears of the wicked can wash anything down.
They can’t be reformed, and everything they do would be suspect for the rest of their lives. You can’t negotiate with them, either.
I’m just gonna stop here. I probably got on at least 3 watch lists for this comment.
Personally, I don’t consider it moral at all. They spent a lot of money on that thing. And what if people on the other side decide to vandalize back?
This looks like relatively harmless vandalism. What if it escalates?
What if car vandalism isn’t enough, what if they burn your house down? Or you to them?
I just think it’s an ugly way to live & nothing good comes from messing with shit that isn’t yours. In this case, the fitting punishment is already applied & by their own hand. Rapid depreciation, vehicles that rust in car washes, virtually no product support, expensive to maintain, ridicule from others…idk. I think that’s enough on its own.
I have a Tesla model 3 with my partner. It was simply the most cost effective EV for us at the time and let us do road trips easily with the super charger network, also he really likes the software updates and self driving features and stuff.
We bought it a while ago when Elon was just an idiot billionaire dick, perhaps not so different from other car makers executive boards just a bit more visibly and annoying, or at least that’s what we thought at the time. It’s worked well for us. We wouldn’t buy it again today given Elons actions in the past year especially.
Certainly I would hope our car wouldn’t be vandalized. Sometimes cars are compromises between family members with different viewpoints, sometimes they’re bought second hand, or more cheaply from older family members when they want a new car. It’s almost impossible to know the story of a car on the street.
Yet I think social pressure to stigmatize people buying teslas is a good thing at this point. Maybe leave a note, or do something non destructive. I get that may not have the same financial repercussions for teslas sales, but it should still help, while not having the detraction of potentially alienating and so listing the viewpoints of the victim of vandalism.
I’d say no, it’s not moral, but at the same time, I wouldn’t be upset to see it happening more often. Get photos.
Not enough swastikas on it.
They like that though, probably won’t even wash it off.
Try a yellow star next time.
I dunno this is canada, ‘dork mobile’ is still effectively rude lol
That’s not vandalism, it’s just dust someone wiped off. Come on.
I mean technically, if we are talking a painted vehicle, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that could cause minor scratching.
It’s defacing which is under the definition of vandalism.
Bullshit, it’s dust. Nothing has been defaced. That is absolutely ridiculous! Are you seriously arguing that the dust is part of the fucking car? Don’t be silly.
I’m not defending the action but just explaining to you that it literally falls under the definition of vandalism.
If someone wrote on your car with their finger you would probably feel upset and a little violated.
Also this doesn’t exactly apply to this vehicle as it’s made out of steel but if you press dirt into your car’s paint with your finger you will scratch the clearcoat. I feel like I shouldn’t need to explain this even but dirt is in fact, very small rocks.
If someone did it to my car, I’d wipe it off (maybe, unless I was in a hurry) because I’m not a snowflake looking for outrage.
If tried to file a report, the police would laugh at me because that’s fucking absurd.
I tried explain to you that, fpr all practical matters, you are incorrect, but fortunately for me, I’m not too invested in educating you on what vandalism is and isn’t.
Have a good day!
Writing in dirt is just not vandalism.
You insisting otherwise makes it seem like you might not be asking this question in good faith.
It is literally vandalism. I didn’t write the law. Lol
It is not. Writing “wash me” is not vandalism. This is not vandalism. Outside of the courtroom, reality is more important than a legal definition.
Moreover, legal definitions are irrelevant to whether an act is moral. Your fixation on this point in the face of so many people highlighting that no harm has been done again suggests you’re not arguing in good faith.
What law? Where? Has it ever been successfully enforced?
Y’all act like OP wrote the damn laws.
In many places, “writing” with the dust on a car is legally considered vandalism. It doesn’t matter how temporary it is, or if it washes off with a stiff breeze or a light rain. Here in Texas, it’d fall under criminal mischief for “intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner”. Whether or not a court will spend the time hearing such a case is another story, but it’s technically illegal, as the laws are written.
What law is that exactly? Does it actually get enforced?
Here in Texas, it’d fall under criminal mischief
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Whether or not a court will spend the time hearing such a case is another story
Let’s call it very localised cleaning.
If it can be defined as vandalism, it’s a harmless kind
If you define “vandalism” to include “writing in dust” then yes, some types of “vandalism” are ok on any type of vehicle what so ever.
Sometimes people write “wash me” in the dust on someone’s window. Who cares.
You shouldn’t write wash me on people’s cars, that’s such a dick move
Yeah. You see it all the time around here. It’s usually some smart ass kid doing it to their mum’s car or whatever.
However, that’s still “vandalism” by your definition.
Just gonna be honest… you seem a bit uptight about this.
Yes. No chill for Nazis, no chill for Nazi clown cars.
We need to test your political purity before deciding whether to destroy your property.
Question 1: Do you own property?
What do you drive?
VW, why?
You mean the manufacturer that cheats on emission tests?
I have some bad news for you about VW and nazis.
Yeah, we all know that nothing changed in Germany since 1930th and a nazis are in full power there. Oh, wait, I think I’m mistaken, I am talking about a different country actually.
Well VW exists due to the nazi party and their kids or grandkids still own most of the company. The same goes for many large German brands.
I fucking hate the snarkiness of some of you on another note. The AFD party looks to be taking majority victory next election and they are literal nazis. I don’t think you have any idea what you are talking about.
VW is a publicly traded company, half the country owns it.
And there is no world in which the AfD takes majority. Not even most voted, let alone majority.
To be someone who hates snarkiness you should try being much less wrong.
And there is no world in which the AfD takes majority.
Yeah, about that… we said that about Trump, too. Twice, actually.
I mean, AFD is gaining a scary amount of traction there, so yeah kinda.
Uhh idk if you have noticed but the spiritual successor to the Nazi party is gaining steam, and the govt has been swallowing and parroting Israeli propaganda for years. It’s not exactly looking great.
That’s writing with a finger in dirt. It’s not vandalism.
That’s somebody elses property. It’s literally vandalism.
One time someone wrote on the dirt in the window of my truck “jesus saved me” and it made me fucking livid lol.
Yeah, no, that is not vandalism lmao
This is the response of someone who doesn’t work on cars for a living. Yeah it actually does fuck up both paint and windows.
It’s defacing which is in the definition of vandalism.
The party of empathy, people. These people are the ones advocating for your fellow Americans and the ones crying online about protecting the working class.
The question: “hey is it nice to vandalize someone’s private property, I think we might be crossing some lines?”
Lemmy: “yes and fuck you”
The result? Probably JD Vance for next president.
You guys are COOKED
Absolutely moral. Convincing owners to not drive them may save a life as well
